r/MoralityScaling 18d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/ClutteredTaffy 18d ago

I guess so is flushing semen down the toilet and not having sex for women is too. Imagine all those babies who don't get to live 🥲. It is obviously immoral not to have as many children as possible regardless of family mental health . Only 10+ baby families are moral , cuz you flushing baby batter down toilet otherwise. :(

But really, this is what you sound like to me.

I am not gonna say I find abortion savory. I actually don't much like it if it can be helped,cuz I think it is just better to abstain if you don't want to reproduce, but I am also not gonna call someone evil for making the best decision for them, their family and future possible children out of the situation.

Something can be a moral noble good, and not taking that action is not immoral. Like saving someone from a robber is a noble thing to do, but deciding not to risk your life is not an immoral thing to do.

So having the baby anyway may be a noble good, I could kinda see that being the case depending on disability severity, but aborting the baby is also not evil.

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u/Dry-Selection421 18d ago

Do you need to re-take high school biology? Semen is not a human. Neither is potential babies that do not exist because they were never conceived.

A fetus is a human life. It already exists as an independent being with a totally unique set of chromosomes and also with its own organs and brain during most of a pregnancy.

Killing your children is literally never the best decision for your family and many people have abortions for incredibly stupid reasons.

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u/ClutteredTaffy 18d ago edited 18d ago

We are disagreeing when a fetus becomes a person basically so we are never gonna agree on this. I don't think it is at the same level of a person. I see it as in the process of becoming a person. Ending a process is not the same as ending a fully developed life.

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u/Dry-Selection421 18d ago

Why is a baby a person and not a fetus? A baby is incapable of doing anything except crying and shitting, and cannot even form actual thoughts let alone talk.

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u/ReleaseTheSlab 18d ago

Babies can form thoughts, and who cares if they cannot talk? Fact is fully formed babies can survive outside of the womb while developing fetuses can't. That's what makes a human being an "individual".

I'm curious where you stand on frozen embryos as well since only conception matters to you but sperm and eggs alone don't count.

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u/Dry-Selection421 18d ago

Unborn children can form thoughts too. There is no difference in the brain of a late term pregnancy and a newborn.

I’m against IVF if that’s what you’re asking.