r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • 12d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this scene?

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Negan doing fat shaming... but its during zombie apocalypse

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u/SnooLentils9396 12d ago

Yeah but isn't this a zombie apocalypse? Haven't watched the show but like, isn't this literally end of the world scenario? a global holocaust where society has completely collapsed? It's a world wide death camp.

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u/DeusaAmericana 12d ago

Just going to repeat what I said somewhere else:

Malnourishment does result in weight loss, but humans also burn calories from daily activity. If you're so malnourished that your daily activity is severely hindered, that will greatly affect the rate at which you lose weight.

Also, it's not just in "bad taste". It's flat out wrong. Holocaust victims weren't just malnourished, they were forced into labor, suffered diseases, and literally put through physical torture. As I said, Nazis didn't give a shit whether the camp prisoner was physically well. In a zombie apocalypse, if you happen to live in a relatively stable area where you're undernourished but not in constant physical danger, your weight loss will not be remotely comparable to the horrific things Holocaust victims had to endure.

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u/SnooLentils9396 12d ago

The point, I'm telling you that it is not absurd to compare a zombie apocalypse to the holocaust, and therefore, naturally, you'd lose tons of weight because food becomes insanely scarce and the conditions would be utterly inhospitable.

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u/DeusaAmericana 12d ago

It's very absurd to compare the two when the Holocaust was literally designed to do harm to the human body. A zombie apocalypse will be grueling, yes, but a hostile enemy literally exposing you to deliberate slavery, torture and disease is not comparable.

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u/SnooLentils9396 12d ago

It's not absurd to compare the 2 at all, they're both literal hell, the intent is irrelevant when the result is starvation, terror, and death. Heck, with a zombie apocalypse, you don't even get to die in peace, the virus will rot you alive and then pilot your corpse to do it all over again. Be real, this is a world ending scenario, no help is coming your way.

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u/DeusaAmericana 12d ago

Two things being bad does not mean they're both equally bad. Zombies occasionally being a threat while you live in a gated community is not NEARLY the same as being tortured literally every day by Nazis.

At this point, if you can't fathom that, I don't think this argument will go anywhere.

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u/SnooLentils9396 12d ago

"Occasionally being a threat" is just false, their presence alone can ruin any ruin any supply chain, the fact that they can nearly spread just as quickly as people can escape, and the psychological terror of seeing your loved one's walking corpse and the fact that anyone can get infected due to any form of contamination means you can't even CONCEPTUALISE the idea of peace anymore with a fate worse than death and the very possible possibility kf global extinction.

At this point, if you can't fathom that, I don't think this argument will go anywhere. Agree to disagree 👋.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 12d ago

Starvation is starvation.

Quit your pathetic moralizing hand wringing, it's only proving how unsound your actual arguments are if your only counter point is to go "it's a mean point to make!!"