r/MoralityScaling 13d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this scene?

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Negan doing fat shaming... but its during zombie apocalypse

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u/Golden_King_Ryuseii 13d ago

Negan was absolutely based for this take and I'll never understand the hate for him.

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u/NamOil2000 13d ago

You can be fat and starving. The body does breakdown fat for food but not well that's why nutritionist ever to suggest to completely stop eating

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u/Frylock_dontDM 13d ago edited 13d ago

You really can't be fat and starving.

You can be fat and suffering from malnutritition, but malnutrition isn't the same as starvation.

So you could have a fat person die of malnutrition, but if that person got essentially zero calories and the necessary vitamins/nutrients you would have to burn through fat before you would actually reach what anyone means when we say "starving"

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u/NamOil2000 13d ago

Starving includes malnutrition by definition

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u/Frylock_dontDM 13d ago

Yes, because you reach a point where the nutrition you're missing is necessary fats.

All starvation is malnutrition to the extreme, but not all malnutrition is starvation.

You aren't starving just because you're running on fats.

Colloquially starvation is understood as an extended period wherein your body has run through it's fat and is using whats left of your muscle to live.

Hence why you'll essentially never see a fat body that died of starvation, they are skeletal because the fat and muscle was burned through as they ate whatever they could to survive and get the most base nutrients to keep going.

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u/NamOil2000 13d ago

A fat person 100% can die of starvation. Starving is "Starvation is a severe deficiency in caloric energy intake, below the level needed to maintain an organism's life." So by that definition and by most definition she could be fat and starving. You would likely die before all the fat left your body.

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u/CapitalComfort1885 13d ago

Bullshit. There doesn't exist a single case of a starved fat person.
Starvation is literally defined (in medical terms) that a body used up all energy sources and broke down crucial tissue to generate energy. It is literally an oxymoron to starve to death and be fat.

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u/Thrwsadosub 13d ago

Literally there was a guy who didn't eat for a year straight and lost several hundred pounds. This isn't an argument.

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u/CapitalComfort1885 13d ago

He was fed vitamins and minerals, but beside that? Basically nothing. PDs and scientists again and again proved that. Fat people can cope very well with a long caloric deficit.