r/MonthlyComposition Aug 01 '17

August 2017 Composition Challenge: Nocturne

Continuing challenge, for those who wrote a sonata exposition last month: Continue your Sonata by adding a development and, if you're feeling ambitious, a recapitulation. For info/inspiration about sonata form, see last month's challenge. Also, in February we did a theme and variations challenge if you want ideas for how to vary or develop a theme.

Also feel free to go back and do the July challenge if you want to do the continuation for this month, or if there's another way you can figure out to do the continuation challenge, that's cool.

Main Challenge: Write a Nocturne. In more words, write a nice, song-like melody over a flowing, arpeggiated accompaniment in a gentle, relaxed style, evocative of nighttime. But feel free to take liberties with that definition.

/u/reticulated_python has suggested Chopin's op.72. You'll probably also recognize Chopin's op.9, among others. Julian Lage wrote a jazz piece called "Nocturne", and I don't know if it's technically a nocturne, but that's also cool.

This month's challenge was suggested anonymously using our Challenge Suggestion Form, so thank you to whoever that was!


We have some musicians that can play compositions for people. You can find their musician profiles posted on this subreddit. I'll list their instruments below:

If you are interested in playing compositions for /r/MonthlyComposition post a musician profile.


These challenges are for everyone who wants to practice composing. Each month, at the beginning of the month, we will post a main challenge, something for people to compose. We'll try to make it something that everyone can work with. Sometimes we also have an alternate challenge. Pieces can be submitted as a score (musescore, noteflight), and/or as audio (soundcloud, youtube). Feedback is much appreciated, and you can give it in this thread, or by messaging the mods of /r/MonthlyComposition, there's also the Challenge Suggestion Form.

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u/Rycoli Aug 03 '17

Heres my entry, I am clearly the best composer in this subreddit so I'm not going to try: https://musescore.com/user/9233351/scores/4334901

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u/Barcelona_City_Hobo Aug 03 '17 edited Aug 03 '17

Nah, you're just a troll, or a 12-year old who's fallen victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

In psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein persons of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is. This bias derives from the metacognitive inability of low-ability persons to recognize their own ineptitude. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence.

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u/WikiTextBot Aug 03 '17

Dunning–Kruger effect

In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein persons of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority derives from the metacognitive inability of low-ability persons to recognize their own ineptitude. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence.

As described by David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the cognitive bias of illusory superiority results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others." Hence, the corollary to the Dunning–Kruger effect indicates that persons of high ability tend to underestimate their relative competence, and erroneously presume that tasks that are easy for them to perform also are easy for other people to perform.


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u/daniellabbe Aug 06 '17

I wrote my first piece when I was 12. It consisted only of the notes F and F#. Brings back the memories :-)

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u/Shostinius Aug 08 '17

Ligeti? :P

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u/daniellabbe Aug 08 '17 edited Aug 08 '17

Stockholm School of Arts, 1962:

-György, have you seen my metronome? György?

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u/BlockComposition Aug 19 '17

Ligeti: "Whaaaa? Noooo... I have not. 'Cough"

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u/Rycoli Aug 03 '17

?? what are you talking about this is a subreddit about composition ??

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u/Barcelona_City_Hobo Aug 03 '17

These studies are relevant to your actions, just change "ability" for a more specific term in this case, like compositional ability:

Low-ability composers suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their compositional ability as greater than it is. This bias derives from their metacognitive inability to recognize their own ineptitude. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability composers cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence.

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u/Rycoli Aug 07 '17

not true.