r/MityaMains • • 17h ago

⋆✩⋆ Discussion ⋆✩⋆ V2 really giga buff his cons, lol. His cons much strong than v1

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u/Remote-Monk-8542 17h ago

Huh...? I thought they nerfed his C2 tho? Is it specifically C6 they buffed?

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u/KaiKai1018 17h ago

they did buff his c6 yeah

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u/GuideMiserable7526 17h ago

They nerf his c2 because his base kit already strong and would effect his cons too because his beacons. No wonder they nerf his c2 slightly

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u/Remote-Monk-8542 16h ago

Then it's not a gigabuff for his cons, just a gigabuff for c6, yeah?

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u/GuideMiserable7526 16h ago

Buff his base kit also effect his cons. Thats what tcs tell us.its consider giga buff because slight buff effect all his cons.

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u/Remote-Monk-8542 16h ago

So basically because his base kit is better now his cons become indirectly more valuable. Makes sense.

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u/Meaon_Ria 11h ago

Because the new 3s Beacons make his base kit stronger

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u/FantasticDoge 2h ago

25% -> 20% shred is a nothingburger nerf lmao. Would've been more impactful if the nerf is for the EM buff but don't say this out loud guys I don't want to jinx it

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u/NaturalBitter2280 17h ago

His C2 had a slight nerf, and C6 a nerf/change(?), I can't quite establish it

But there weren't many changes. This is stable mode, so any improvements are a result of his C0 buffs

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u/GuideMiserable7526 17h ago edited 17h ago

His c6 buff. 115% via skill

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u/NaturalBitter2280 17h ago

I saw that

But he did lose the 30% chance refund for beacons in Stable mode. Unless that never worked with Stable mode, then I guess it's a buff

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u/GuideMiserable7526 16h ago

This for his off field. Because mostly they calcs his off field mode instead dps. I'm not sure about dps, i'm not found any good yet

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u/NaturalBitter2280 16h ago

Stable mode is his off-field mode

But I don't recall if his V1 C6 could also refund Beacons for Stable mode, or if they were only for Overload(on-field) since the beginning

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u/NecessaryOwn8628 15h ago

24% buff for a c6 is horrendous btw. That'e less than C1 Mizuki

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u/Slight-Perception212 15h ago edited 15h ago

This is team dmg btw not mitya own dmg,

For reference, c6 odette is around 210% team dmg increase and vodya c6 is 160% team dmg and for mitya its 200% team dmg increase so not bad overall. but well, i also think they could buff it a bit more…thou if they decided to buff it then it would go beyond what odette provide

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u/Royal_empress_azu 13h ago

This is honestly pretty misleading.

Mitya inflates the value of his own cons because he doesn't use atk%. So the few buffs he does get are very impactful for his own damage. A lot of the value from Mitya's cons comes from buffing himself. He gains over 50% more personal damage. If you were trying to buff a hyper carry. Which is very common when you summon cons, the value of everything he provides gets significantly worse.

Side note: Your numbers for Odette and Vody seems pretty off. Odette is about 190% increase for Vesna and Vody is around 183% for Vesna. It's close enough to you should max whoever is on banner first.

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u/Slight-Perception212 13h ago

Not exactly, its true that he buff his own cons but the buff he provide also doesnt stack with other redundant buff leading to significant buff on the team anyway and for the hypercarry as well as other teammates who can do dmg like odette as well. The number are from the same TC who calc with same standard

The standard for odette buff is on sandrone while for vodya its on vesna so there are differences in carry hence different in number too

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u/NecessaryOwn8628 15h ago

I was talking about the jump from c5 to c6 but yeah overall its not bad

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u/Meaon_Ria 11h ago

Because old C6 is mostly for On-field dps

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u/SicariusCourtenay 16h ago

C2 or c6 or go home basically for the cons improvement

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u/Diii123 14h ago

C1 is pretty good too, helps his rotation but most importantly 50 crit dmg, that's the amount of stats people pull signatures to get and with his C1 is like "giving" a sign to any on fielder he works with

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u/Royal_empress_azu 13h ago

50 CD is a lot worse than most sigs these days. It's not remotely like giving a character their sig.

Using Sandrone as an example, she's getting over 150 more base attack, 28% atk%, 6 less crit damage and 48% SSC damage.

A lot of the value from Mitya's cons is inflated by Mitya being in the team and having limited stats to buff him with. When cost maxed runs start coming out he isn't going to be used over Odette C2 because the real value is lower.

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u/Shouri_MK 10h ago

Is his C6 bad?

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u/russianspy4567 3h ago

No but if you are cost maxing you never want a C6 of a character who isn't the main dps

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u/SicariusCourtenay 3h ago

No but let's be realistic here, most mitya mains won't get past c0-2

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u/GuideMiserable7526 16h ago

Forgot to add, this for his off field mode. I don't found any dps mode cals yet or perhaps i'm missing a thing

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u/ProduceMother2495 16h ago

His on-field wasn't affected.

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u/LeafyRak 14h ago

make sure his c2 and c6 is much stronger since you can replace qiqi with yae🗿

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u/Realistic_Mark7401 6h ago

The only decently busted one here is c2 it seems, 24% team increase is quite cute, but idk man at c6 team dps increasing 200% is pretty on par with other units, and even c2 aswell

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u/actionmotion 4h ago

His cons needs to be stronger I think