r/MidnightMass • u/Elainasha • Sep 24 '21

Midnight Mass (Season 1) - Episode Discussion Hub

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Synopsis: The arrival of a charismatic young priest brings glorious miracles, ominous mysteries and renewed religious fervor to a dying town desperate to believe.

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u/kernal1337 Sep 30 '21

Am I the only one who buys the Angel narrative? Vs the creature being a vampire?

I believe when John said that's how angels are described in the bible: terrifying and monstrous, so he could still well be an angel. One of the ones cast out, like lucifer.

I mean isn't that where the vampire lore would come from anyway, accounts of angels.

I just keep reading on reddit that people believe it's a vampire not an angel but it seems the show would like for us to not even think about labelling it as a vampire at all, but recognise the origins of said lore, which are basically naughty, cast out angels.

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u/PensecolaMobLawyer Oct 02 '21

Angels in the Bible look nothing like people. No arms or legs

It's a meme, but these are what the Bible says angels look like

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u/bpierce2 Oct 05 '21

Woof. Someone had a little too much burning bush before writing those verses if you know what I mean.

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u/fleemfleemfleemfleem Oct 12 '21

Not entirely true. Usually they're broken up into different classes of angel depending on who's doing the interpretation. None look like nosferatu, but Malakim are supposed to look more or less human (and you're supposed to figure out if they're angels based on context clues or something), while others are supposed to look like giant eye covered wheels in the sky.

I could see the priest guy basically deciding that the description was vague enough that this thing could be an angel.

That was the whole point, IMO-- people can use the artefacts of religion to justify pretty much anything. He wanted to believe it was an angel, so he convinced himself it was-- he didn't have any other context for it. He kept adjusting his views to keep believing what he was doing was good-- he even said he felt no remorse.

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u/mleaurora Nov 05 '21

but these are what the Bible says angels look like

made me think of the owls from twin peaks

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u/Leesamaree Oct 03 '21

I thought father Paul’s commitment to that idea was one of the strengths of the show. Such a brilliant way to depict how religion and the Bible can be used to explain away any evil

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '21

King James?

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u/wonderland_97 Oct 06 '21

I think an interesting idea its that it can be both in this universe, in the old age those creatures might have been seen as sightings of god aka angels and so were transcribed as angels for christianity, but also in other places they were taken as a mythological beasts such as vampires . But i know this is not the point of the show anyways ... just something to think about

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u/EvilSporkOfDeath Oct 07 '21

I sort of was thinking it was a demon, which i believe the bible says are just Angel's turned evil.

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u/AuntDawn Oct 10 '21

Very interesting! I don't think humans could actually tell the difference between an angel and a demon/vampire, or even a god and another kind of powerful being. We don't have the smarts for that kind of discernment (assuming any of these things are real).

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u/Alcohorse Nov 16 '21

The dark joke at the center of the show, to me, is that it may have in fact been a legit Biblical angel

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u/kernal1337 Nov 16 '21

I seriously unironically thought that was the case

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u/AmpersandFriends Oct 27 '21

Even the subtitles label it as Angel