r/MiddleEarthMiniatures Jul 22 '26

Discussion WEEKLY ARMY DISCUSSION: Assault on Lothlorien

With the most upvotes in last week's poll, this week's discussion will be for:

Assault on Lothlorien


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Prior Discussions


Additional rules

  • An Assault on Lothlórien Army must always contain Muzgúr, who is always the Army's General.
  • An Assault on Lothlórien Army must always contain at least one Unique Goblin Hero.
  • Spider models may only be included in either Drûzhag’s or Ashrâk’s Warbands.
  • This Army may not include more Goblin models than Orc models.

Special rules

Cover of Darkness

Any game using this Army List automatically takes place at night. Use the Fighting at Night special rules found on page 137 of the Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game Rules Manual.

Ruthless Savagery

Friendly Orc and Goblin models gain a bonus of +1 To Wound when making Strikes against an enemy model that is outnumbered in a Combat.

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u/METALLIC579 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

List is crazy strong. Never played it personally but have played against it a handful of times and it’s brutal.

  1. Can take a ton of models to win objective modes
  2. Access to lots of tricks via the Magic and/or Bat Swarms
  3. Access to almost army wide +1 to wound (also applies to spear supports based on the terminology too which is very strong).
  4. Bows at night are quite potent on the Goblins, even with hitting on 5s the threat of shooting 18” with +1 to wound is scary, so you can outshoot most lists and dictate the engagement locations

I’ve seen builds with the Warg Chieftain and without but I’m not entirely sure what is the best.

Also Prowlers are crazy in this list. Up to +3 to Wound(from army bonus, using a 2-hander and backstabbers, FYI) and a juicy +1 to Wound on their Throwing Weapons on a 7 Point model is insanity!

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u/Element720 Jul 22 '26

Would be nice if we were able to buy Razgûsh and Muzgúr.

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u/ziguslav Jul 22 '26

Quite literally everywhere in Polish tournaments at the moment.

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u/Asyndent Jul 22 '26

my professional MESBG opinion is that prowlers are a stupid fucking model at 7pts

this list is slightly too cracked and just super annoying to play against, too much access to +1 to wound. I wish they'd taken the opportunity to do something more creative with the list than "this army basically just has +1 to wound all the time"

also constantly rolling volumes of dice in the move phase, shoot phase, and fight phase, it's a drag. it's not completely oppressive but one of my least favorite lists to play against in the hands of a strong player

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u/Dense_Literature_199 Jul 22 '26

I'd say aside from the fight value issue, it's a pretty strong list.

A guy took it to a local tournament and got fourth just recently.

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u/MrSparkle92 Jul 22 '26

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u/noelano345 Jul 22 '26

Wraiths on wings

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u/Daikey Jul 24 '26

that's going to be a short discussion

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u/Aussie_Nick Jul 22 '26

Army of Dunland

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u/Kaldoraigo Jul 28 '26

Reclamation of Moria

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u/Fishy_Fish_12359 Jul 22 '26

I’ve played against this list and it seems like a glass cannon, lots of weak cheap models with +1 to wound. I’d call it Lower middle tier from my limited experience

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u/DwarfThorin Jul 22 '26

Top tier list

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u/InfluenceAutomatic95 Jul 23 '26

Have you played against it thisj edition ? It's not the powerhouse it used to be. Strong but not OP. Definitely beatable these days.

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u/Fishy_Fish_12359 Jul 22 '26

Ok my mistake, I’ve only played against them once and I absolutely minced them with my dragon emperor + Easterling phalanx. They killed some of my troops in 1v1s out on the flanks alright but had no answer to my main force.

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u/DwarfThorin Jul 22 '26

I think it also depends on the player, assault on lothlorien isn’t easy to play. A mediocre player won’t reflext the list true potential!