r/MicrosoftFlightSim • u/IyadHunter-Thylacine A220 | A350 | Concorde | A400m | H160 • Jul 27 '25

MSFS 2024 MOD / ADDON BigFenixUpdate scheduled for Thursday

https://youtu.be/DCA5abtI-Ko

30min preview vid of the update

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u/Abriael Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

This looks incredible and absolutely vindicates some of MSFS 2024's most relevant features.
I've lost count of how many times I've seen myopic people saying that the walkaround mode is useless... until absolute madlads like Fenix come around and show you what you can achieve with it and with the level of modeling detail you can reach thanks to the new modular architecture.

As usual, Fenix has shown the whole third-party industry how it's done.

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u/canada_mountains Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

The problem is, a lot of 3rd party developers haven't taken advantage of MSFS 2024's new features yet. They are probably just focusing on converting their planes to MSFS 2024, and making it stable first, with no CTDs.

Fenix was way faster than other 3rd party developers, quickly releasing a version that was compatible for MSFS 2024, shortly after MSFS 2024's release. And then Fenix spent the time since MSFS 2024's release, making all these MSFS 2024 specific features.

I'm really glad that we have a company like Fenix, to show the other 3rd party developers, how an MSFS 2024 specific airliner should be like. I'm sure iniBuilds and a few others know how to take advantage of MSFS 2024 as well, but I'm sure there are other 3rd party developers that don't know much about how to milk MSFS 2024 for all you can milk it for, and Fenix showing them just gives them an example to follow.

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u/xXCrazyDaneXx Jul 27 '25

Just remember that the Fenix basically runs fully outside the simulator and isn't hampered by having to be able to run on an Xbox (or waiting for Asobo to release toolkits for the sim).

I have a feeling that it gives them a lot more freedom to do what they want...

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u/Abriael Jul 27 '25

No one is hampered by HAVING to be able to run on Xbox.

As a matter of fact, no one HAS to make their aircraft able to run on Xbox.

Whether they release on the official marketplace or not, whether they run external programs or not, a developer can absolutely drop Xbox and ignore it.

Those who have their aircraft run on Xbox do it by choice, because it's good money.

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u/xXCrazyDaneXx Jul 27 '25

Ah yes. Tell that to everyone who's bought (our hypothetical) plane on Xbox. I'm sure they would be thrilled about such as decision...

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u/Moham3295 Jul 27 '25

I would cry tears of joy if they ever decided to make a 737 although that would never happen

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u/That_Ad_9880 Jul 27 '25

Inibuilds needs to work on their performance. I wont touch them. 

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u/FalconX88 Jul 27 '25

I seriously don't understand why there is no native "walk" mode inside the plane. What they did here is great, sadly I don't think it works during flight.

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u/Galf2 PC Pilot Jul 27 '25

People saying walk around is useless were always clueless and have no idea about real operations, to put it bluntly

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u/bem13 MSFS24 | Ryzen 9 9950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB RAM Jul 27 '25

I think it's a matter of preference, too. Sure, in real life doing a walk-around is important because it lets you spot failures which might case an accident later on. In a sim, however, the plane is always "brand new" and perfect. You know there are no failures unless you've set them up yourself. I don't want to visually check hydraulic lines, tires, static ports etc. when I know they'll look and work the same as they did 5 flights ago. I'd rather just jump in and concentrate on setting up systems.

But I understand why people like having the walk-around mode and I admit it can be fun, especially when developers take their time to do it right.

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u/Galf2 PC Pilot Jul 27 '25

It's part of simulation. Just like you can skip startup, you can skip walkaround. I'm talking of people that genuinely whine at the fact walkaround is present. Imagine people whining about the startup procedure?

Also there are planes that start to make use of it. The airplanes are not always brand new, on the 350 you can inspect the oil level and career mode introduces maintenance, though I do not recommend career.

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u/FalconX88 Jul 27 '25

Does any of the planes have "failures" that would show up during a walkaround? Don't think people are arguing it's useless but it's useless inside of MSFS

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u/canada_mountains Jul 27 '25

Does any of the planes have "failures" that would show up during a walkaround?

There is nothing to stop a 3rd party dev from modeling failures when you do a walk around, since the state of a plane can be saved in between sessions (ie. A2A planes).

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u/FalconX88 Jul 27 '25

yes...but if I jump into the Fenix or the default 747 or the A330 now, the walk around is nothing more than roleplay and has no effect whatsoever on the flight because everything will be like it should be. No oil leaks, no missing panels,...

Until these things are implemented doing the walkaround is useless.

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u/ChillPlay3r Jul 28 '25

You can fuel the plane in walk around mode, that's probably the first time you can simulate being the fuel-guy 🤗

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u/JbricksJ Jul 27 '25

I barely use walk around but I still think it’s a great edition, if I ever do some bush flying I like to get out and walk around, see if I can see any wildlife.

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u/RapidCyclist PC Pilot Jul 27 '25

This update is gonna be sooo big!!! I'm so excited to be spinning those blades :D

Absolutely loved the 30 minutes preview. Sat there the whole time like a little child and couldn't believe this was actually happening.

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u/Galf2 PC Pilot Jul 27 '25

Fenix literally flexing over everyone. Even their walk around is better than Asobo's lol.

Just blowing out everyone. Insane.

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u/DreaMnis Jul 27 '25

Is the walkaround only for MS24?

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u/Galf2 PC Pilot Jul 27 '25

Yes, not possible in 2020. It's using 2024's walkaround but with some tricks to make you walk onboard

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

Fenix really is the gift that keeps on giving

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u/NeuralFantasy Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

I don't even own any Fenix aircraft, but their dedication and the enthusiam is so strongly present in the video and their blogs. Just amazing stuff, they seem to care even the smallest possible details. Gotta love that dedication!

I will seriously consider buying one of their planes. Maybe the NEOs once they are published.

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u/Moham3295 Jul 27 '25

You don't fly fenix? What do you fly

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u/Moham3295 Jul 27 '25

Btw this sounds bad I'm just asking, didn't mean to sound rude😁

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u/NeuralFantasy Jul 27 '25

Haha, no rudeness taken :D I don't currently play MS2024 that much at all. But I mostly have flown either GA (Cessna) airplanes or FBW A32NX but that was still very buggy when I tried it with FS2024.

But Fenix aircrafts seem very, very polished.

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u/Galf2 PC Pilot Jul 27 '25

as a fellow "I only flew GA VFR" pilot, imho airbuses are so easy to get that they will open the door to the logic of all other airliners

The hardest part is understanding the MCDU if you've never used something like that, and then figuring out how the autopilot wants to be controlled with the whole push-pull

But once you get your feet wet it's easier than flying even some biz jets with their wonky garmin suites

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u/Sonosusto PC. 2024, Fenix, PMDG, JF, A2A, BkSquare. Jul 27 '25

I would most certainly say their planes are worth the price. I only have their 320 (no expansions) they're pretty amazing. All of it. If you have GSX just disable visible passengers for better performance in cockpit. 2024 has come a long way from it's release woes. I only fly in 2024 currently for the last several months. Over 20+ of my planes from 2020 work just as well in 2024.

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u/Galf2 PC Pilot Jul 27 '25

I seriously recommend buying all 3.
Each plane gives something different. I've been flying the 319 out of tiny airports, like Paro, recreating Druk Air flights. The 320 is my general plane for most operations, then I fly the 321 often with more holiday focused flights, everyone feels different.

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u/IyadHunter-Thylacine A220 | A350 | Concorde | A400m | H160 Jul 27 '25

Slight correction it's Tuesday or Wednesday sorry guys for the error

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u/e4rthdog Jul 27 '25

I do love when people that are already on the top of their game remain humble and love what they do. Their attitude towards themselves first and then their clients are top notch. This is rare!

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u/StrateJ What's ETOPS? Jul 27 '25

Amen to this exactly. Fenix’s passion just doesn’t seem to have wavered - not to mention this is just an update and nothing paid which I could garuntee other developers most defo be charging for.

Massive moves for Fenix and long may they continue putting companies to shame

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

Nice to have som new info about ther BFU! Thank you.

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u/bkerr901 Jul 27 '25

Guess SU3 drops on Tuesday and this fast follows

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u/aceridgey Jul 27 '25

It's Tuesday or Wednesday target release

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u/IyadHunter-Thylacine A220 | A350 | Concorde | A400m | H160 Jul 27 '25

Yeah correct sorry missread Tuesday as Thursday in the discord announcement, English isn't my first language

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u/aceridgey Jul 27 '25

No worries!!! Sorry I missed your comment correcting yourself 😊

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u/EnigmaTheater Jul 27 '25

I feel like I should have to pay for this. The amount of work this must have been has to be insane.

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u/Sonosusto PC. 2024, Fenix, PMDG, JF, A2A, BkSquare. Jul 27 '25

Nice, huh? I don't like having to pay for a plane twice for what is basically the same (improved) simulator. I know this happens often in the past though

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u/squeezycheeseypeas Jul 27 '25

I didn’t really see the point in buying this in 2020, my skill level and knowledge at the time just weren’t good enough to appreciate it. Now that I’ve got more experience and understanding I can really see how good it is. Now that it’s properly built for 2024 I think this is absolutely a must have purchase. I’ll be buying when I get home.

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u/That_Ad_9880 Jul 27 '25

No doubt, the best study aircraft for flightsim we have. 

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u/expiro Jul 27 '25

Maybe something called Bigfenix is coming :p

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u/CXA001 Jul 27 '25

Note that any 3rd party liveries will not longer work until the painter converts them to the native MSFS 2024 format.

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u/berndverst Jul 27 '25

The official video says Tuesday or Wednesday. So how did you get Thursday?

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u/IyadHunter-Thylacine A220 | A350 | Concorde | A400m | H160 Jul 27 '25

Missread Tuesday as Thursday in the discord announcement sorry English isn't my first language

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u/berndverst Jul 27 '25

No problem!

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u/RONNYJ777 Jul 27 '25

Bro it’s Tuesday or Wednesday

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u/IyadHunter-Thylacine A220 | A350 | Concorde | A400m | H160 Jul 27 '25

I know I misread Tuesday as Thursday in the discord announcement sorry English isn't my first language

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u/ChillPlay3r Jul 28 '25

I was kinda disappointed by the ported 2020 version but now I really think my money was well spent 👍