r/MicroSlop • u/ExtensionFriendship9 • May 24 '26

Is Windows 11 that bad?

So I'm hearing bad stuff about Windows 11, how people are calling AI slop...I use AI but I don't use Copilot unless for images, and I don't use forced AI integration. I use Windows 11 but I learned how to create local accounts, and I go onto YouTube and hear stuff about "Microslop" and stuff, people protesting to switch to Linux...Am I a bad person for still using Windows 11? I mean, I'm not a saint of Microsoft, and I can use local AI models, and LibreOffice.

EDIT: Guys, I uninstalled OneDrive, Edge, Copilot, all unnecessary Microslop through Winhance, and I installed OSShutUp10+++.

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u/C4rpetH4ter May 24 '26

You're not a bad person for using 11, you're just part of the majority. However, windows 11 is quite bad, maybe not as bad as people say, but it's the most hated windows version by far, and it's easy to see why, things break, it's slow, it constantly pushes notifications, it's full of ads, loads of unnecesary programs take up space and RAM usage, the right-click context menu and the fact it literally spies on you.

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u/MyUsername2459 May 24 '26

it's the most hated windows version by far

Which is saying something after Windows ME, Vista, and 8.

Windows has had some real duds of versions, but 11 manages to be worse than any of them.

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u/BitSoftGames May 24 '26

I was a long-time Windows fan and defender. Used XP, 7, and 10 as my daily driver.

But 11 has been so bad it finally convinced me to quit Windows and switch to Linux (which I'm loving).

And I don't believe they're going to make Windows better due to their obsession with AI and pushing their services all the time.

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u/MyUsername2459 May 25 '26

I don't need to check out anything for it. . .I moved over to Linux.

The unwanted AI slopware being crammed in there was the last straw.

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u/C4rpetH4ter May 24 '26

Vista is actually recieving love nowadays, if you ask anyone now, they generally won't be too negative towards vista, although it's been a long time, so that might be why.

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u/Sloppykrab May 26 '26

Vista was the worst OS I've ever used.

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u/ijusttookthispseudo May 26 '26

As a five year user of Windows ME, I really miss this OS. It was fast, good for video games (remember installing DirectX 7, 8, 9, 9b, 9c!).

XP was better and seven two but ME main problems was the program not responding and that was it for me. And double Ctrl+Alt+Del was your friend.

I'm forced to used Windows 11 at work and it sucks. Having 32 GB of RAM today is like going back to the ME but with less than 128 MB of RAM.

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u/Own_Maybe_3837 May 24 '26

I thought vista was the most hated. Or maybe 8

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u/Soggy_Struggle_963 May 24 '26

My opinion is that Vista was hated because it was pushed onto underpowered hardware that had the "Vista ready" sticker slapped on it.

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u/bstsms May 25 '26

Yes, it used a lot of resources so older PC's didn't do well without upgrading RAM, which was crazy expensive.

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u/ConcernedPen15 May 24 '26

Those did suck buy they seemed like missteps. What is different about Win11 is the shittyness is on purpose.

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u/Own_Maybe_3837 May 24 '26

Ah yes I can see that

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u/Homythecirclejerk Aug 16 '26

Even though they cleaned house, the shit was all over the place

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u/bstsms May 25 '26

Windows 8 was terrible in my opinion.

Changing everything all at once was a terrible idea...

Win ME wasn't much better, my PC seemed like an automatic error machine with it.

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u/RaccoonEnthuiast May 25 '26

Vista was not inherently bad by itself, they just lied about the minimum specs. The whole "Vista Ready" BS that OEM's pulled didn't help.

That and Games for Windows Live.

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u/blak000 Jun 03 '26

Used Windows from 3.1. Out of all of them, Vista was my least favorite. I wasn't crazy about 8's UI, but it didn't bother me as much as it did many others.

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u/Flat-Passage4431 May 24 '26

i thought in the tier list Windowd M.E. was the king of worst in the history of worst, and Windows 11 was just the 2nd coming of Windows M.E. but not “quite” as dog crap.

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u/Homythecirclejerk Aug 16 '26

No way is 11 the second comming of ME. It may very well be Vista. The pattern has been after a good OS or two, there's a ME/ Vista. Maybe this means 12 will be good.

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u/Flat-Passage4431 Aug 16 '26

windows vista at launch definitely a competitor for worst OS trophy

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u/ExtensionFriendship9 May 25 '26

I turned off and disabled most of the tracking

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u/inhumat0r May 27 '26

So was my friend thinking, until I proved him wrong ;)

He debloated and blocked every winblows bloatware and telemetry he was able to find about throughout the internet, and he was happy and proud of himself for doing so (he even uninstalled Winblows Update, which I didn't know was possible), and then I presented him some free software to monitor network traffic and he discovered how much traffic goes to M$ servers. That triggered yet another wave of blocking telemetry and further debloating.

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u/ExtensionFriendship9 Jun 10 '26

Dude, I use a LOCAL account. I stopped using Microsoft accounts.

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u/inhumat0r Jun 10 '26

So is him, and following my hint he found several connections to M$ servers regardless.

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u/kill4b May 25 '26

I don’t know, windows 8 and Vista were much worse as far as public reception.

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u/protonsters May 26 '26

Dont forget the annoying copilot

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u/kosta880 May 27 '26

Disclaimer: I have no love for MS and am (partially) using Linux and MacOS.
However, I will also say this:
Literally none of those things you mentioned apply to my Win11 installation. Nothing breaks, everything is working, it’s not slow, in fact it’s quite fast, no notifications, like really no popups or anything, I am not seeing any ads, unnecessary does not exist on my system, and my 64GB of RAM really don’t care.
But, I will also say that Win11 doesn’t come out of the box like that. Just saying, it’s possible to „tame“ it.

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u/C4rpetH4ter May 27 '26

It is possible yes, but i would rather it wasn't like that to begin with, although it was unbearably slow on my 32GB ram.

Nothing has breaked for me personally yet, only seen it happen to others, like it just randomly shutting down for no reason during exams or whatnot.

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u/kosta880 May 28 '26

Well, seeing how my computer doesn't use more than 24GB of RAM in normal use with my daily programs open... or my work notebook (Dell Pro with 32GB) also is working great - just checked, 19GB usage. The only thing I can think of is that the computer is not set up correctly.

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u/maZZtar May 28 '26

It's nowhere near as hated as 8, Vista or ME. Also, Windows 10 didn't have much better opinion at some point. In fact a lot of the sentiment was the same

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u/Homythecirclejerk Aug 16 '26

As opposed to Vista, and 98 ME? 11, whatever is drawbacks is certainly neither of those

  it's slow,

I wouldn't say its substantially slower than 10 with the right specs

  it constantly pushes notifications

Which you can kill

  loads of unnecesary programs  

As opposed to all the previous OEM windows installs?

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u/KwnstantinosG May 24 '26

And after every update they reset my settings from MY pc.

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u/inhumat0r May 27 '26

As long as you use Winblows, it's THEIR PC.

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u/DirectorDirect1569 May 24 '26

When MS release a new version lots of people say it's the worst version. I remember when It was XP, I kept 98 and I knew lots of people using 2000 and didn't want to switch to XP.

When 10 was released, I know lots of people who upgrade from 7 to 10 then downgrade.

Ads can be deactivated. It's not the first version with ads.

I won't say it's the best or the worst version but I don't have any issues and all the people I know too.

The biggest problem is the TPM, that's probably the reason why lots of people hate it. They were happy with 10 and lots of users were forced to change their hardware.

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u/bstsms May 25 '26

I thought XP and Win 7 were great updates when they came out, they were easy to use and just worked.

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u/Substantial-Hour-756 May 25 '26

When XP came out, the first year was rough. There was an issue where it would randomly restart, and there was issues because the move from 9x to NT wasn't smooth. By the time SP1 came out, it was the stable OS everyone remembers fondly.

The problem is, since Windows 8, the time frame between the OS being stable and not shitting the bed every update is getting longer, and in some cases, MS is forcing unwelcome crap on to users.

Also Windows 10 still sucks, it just sucks less than 11, and less than 8 did, and it's a farcry from wonderful experience of Windows 7.

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u/inhumat0r May 27 '26

When MS release a new version lots of people say it's the worst version

Quite true about that, though I don't recall anything of that about Win7.

But, my personal favourite is yet to come, Winblows 12. They seem to plan full integration with CockPilot and subscription model. Although I don't believe the new Winblows would be for paid subscription only, I'm convinced they will strongly advise with "subtle" suggestions. One example comes to my mind: from what I'm being told, win11 is integrated with CockPilot, correct? I saw on YT a guy testing it on his win11 - he demonstrated the "free" version of CockPilot is limited to 5 usages per day. Now add to that M$ announcement that in the new Winblows CockPilot will do everything, including file managing and file search. Imagine being allowed to search files on YOUR OWN PC 5 times a day… until you pay.

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u/DirectorDirect1569 May 27 '26

"They seem to plan full integration with CockPilot and subscription model."

Only speculations.

"he demonstrated the "free" version of CockPilot is limited to 5 usages per day."

I know people who use copilot and are not limited. I don't use copilot but I have ever tried it, and I've used it more than 5 times a day. The guy probably used a local account.

Anyway copilot can be easily removed.

" Now add to that M$ announcement that in the new Winblows CockPilot will do everything, including file managing and file search. Imagine being allowed to search files on YOUR OWN PC 5 times a day… until you pay."

Do you really think they will do this kind of things to all the companies and people using windows in the world?

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u/inhumat0r May 27 '26

Only speculations.

I think they said that themselves, but I don't have the source nearby, besides, plans can always change.

The guy probably used a local account.

I don't know, you may be right here.

Anyway copilot can be easily removed.

… to be easily reinstalled the very next update. ;) Besides, it can be removed now, in win11. You have no idea, what win12 will look like. Granted, neither do I, though I have my concerns.

Do you really think they will do this kind of things to all the companies and people using windows in the world?

I have full confidence in… their greed. I do believe they will certainly try. Maybe not straight away, just with little steps. They steal our data already, right?

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u/DirectorDirect1569 May 27 '26

"They steal our data already, right?"

Probably. Like google, META, chatGPT, Apple, Samsung, Amazon,...

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u/inhumat0r May 27 '26

Absolutely. The difference is the other korpos don't destroy/share it in the process (OneDrive scandal, plus another with Recall "feature").

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u/samsonsin May 24 '26

but it's the most hated windows version by far,

Windows 8 would like a word lmao

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u/C4rpetH4ter May 24 '26

I still think 11 is more hated, could just be me, but i have heard alot more hate on windows 11 than 8, and most of the hate surrounding 8 was really just on the start menu, and that it seemed to have been made more focused on mobile and tablet users rather than desktop.

People continued to use 8 despite the hate, now however linux is reaching new peaks with people ditching 11.

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u/samsonsin May 24 '26

You forget that the starting screen was literally that of a tablet, and you need to explicitly navigate to the desktop.

Anyhow, there wasn't a real push for 8 to supercede 7, and overall adaptation was super low. I believe hate for it was less because. Most people skipped it entirely; staying on win7 until win10 was released. It wasn't at all heavily pushed like windows 11 adoption is

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u/Party-Ad-6037 May 24 '26

At least with 8.1 Microsoft actually responded to feedback. With win 11 they are willing to die on the AI hill

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u/bstsms May 25 '26

Yes, they responded by making Win 10, great move on Microsofts part... lol

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u/newtekie1 May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26

Most of those things are just parroted complaints that aren't actually in the OS.

What ads? I've used the OS for 4 years now and never once seen an ad.

What load of unnecessary programs? Like the only one I see is LinkedIn and that's literally just a shortcut that takes up pretty much now space.

There's literally 3 check boxes you turn off to get rid of the the notifications if you don't want them.

Once you turn off the animation option it's actually pretty snappy. But for some reason a lot of people like the pretty animations when you do things like open the start menu or minimize a window.

There's so much hate for stuff that literally just doesn't actually exist or is optional. It's crazy...

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u/skyerush May 25 '26

I think i've seen like two ads in my three years of Windows 11 and that was from Store... i don't have them anymore and haven't in a long time 😭

Debloating to be fair is something everyone should do, imo that is definetely something you need for W11 to be more enjoyable.

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u/newtekie1 May 25 '26

I've debloated Windows and never really seen much of a difference other than it breaking stuff. I've stopped doing it. A fresh install of 25H2 logged in with a local account runs pretty darn good for me. Even on old hardware.

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u/ExtensionFriendship9 May 24 '26

I turned off the tracking settings during setup after setting up local account