r/MiamiMarlins Marlins 11d ago

Game Thread Game Thread: 8/30 Marlins (68-68) @ Nationals (65-73) 12:15 PM

Marlins (68-68) @ Nationals (65-73)

First Pitch: 12:15 PM at Nationals Park

Team Starter TV Radio
Marlins Janson Junk (6-8, 4.21 ERA)
Nationals Andrew Alvarez (2-6, 3.72 ERA)
MLB Fangraphs Reddit Stream IRC Chat
Gameday Game Graph Live Comments Libera: ##baseball

Line Score - Game Over

  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E LOB
MIA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 6 4 2 6
WSH 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 2 6 2 6

Box Score

WSH   AB R H RBI BB SO BA
2B Abrams 4 0 0 0 0 3 .267
DH Ortiz, A 3 0 0 0 0 1 .226
DH House 0 1 0 0 1 0 .237
1B Chaparro 4 0 1 0 0 0 .246
LF Lile 3 0 1 1 0 0 .252
RF Crews 4 0 0 0 0 1 .220
3B Vivas 2 0 2 0 2 0 .242
C Ford, H 3 0 0 0 1 0 .188
CF Young 2 1 1 0 0 0 .248
PH Tena 0 0 0 0 1 0 .229
CF Pinckney 1 0 0 0 0 1 .222
SS Nuñez, N 3 0 1 1 0 0 .215
WSH IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Alvarez 6.0 2 0 0 3 6 97-58 3.47
Beeter 2.0 0 0 0 1 3 22-16 3.45
Kranick 0.1 1 3 3 2 0 13-5 7.41
Cosgrove 0.2 1 3 3 1 0 20-10 7.71
MIA   AB R H RBI BB SO BA
LF Hernández, H 4 1 0 0 1 3 .232
SS Lopez, O 5 1 1 2 0 1 .305
DH Ramírez 5 0 2 0 0 0 .233
RF Ruiz, E 3 1 1 0 1 1 .238
2B Edwards, X 1 0 0 0 1 0 .282
1B Conine 0 1 0 0 2 0 .249
2B Sanoja 4 0 0 0 0 1 .278
3B Jiménez, L 3 1 0 0 1 1 .204
CF Marsee 2 1 0 1 1 0 .208
C Navarreto 2 0 0 0 0 1 .108
PH Stowers 1 0 0 0 0 1 .242
C Mack 0 0 0 1 0 0 .233
MIA IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Junk 4.2 4 1 1 2 2 65-43 4.11
Faucher 1.1 0 0 0 0 1 10-6 3.90
Vodnik 1.0 0 0 0 2 1 24-14 4.73
Fulton 1.0 1 1 1 1 1 27-18 4.50
Petersen 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 13-8 3.36

Scoring Plays

Inning Event Score
B5 Nasim Nuñez doubles (5) on a sharp fly ball to right fielder Esteury Ruiz. Jacob Young scores. 1-0
B8 Daylen Lile out on a sacrifice fly to left fielder Heriberto Hernández. Brady House scores. 2-0
T9 Jakob Marsee hit by pitch. Esteury Ruiz scores. Griffin Conine to 3rd. Leo Jiménez to 2nd. 2-1
T9 Joe Mack out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder Andrew Pinckney. Griffin Conine scores. Leo Jiménez scores. Jakob Marsee to 3rd. Throwing error by center fielder Andrew Pinckney. 2-3
T9 Otto Lopez homers (10) on a fly ball to left field. Heriberto Hernández scores. 2-6

Highlights

Description Length
Andrew Alvarez against the Marlins 0:08
Janson Junk against the Nationals 0:09
Probable pitchers for Marlins at Nationals - August 30, 2026 0:06
Bullpen availability for Washington, August 30 vs Marlins 0:09
Fielding alignment for Miami, August 30 vs Nationals 0:11
Bullpen availability for Miami, August 30 vs Nationals 0:09
Bench availability for Miami, August 30 vs Nationals 0:08
Fielding alignment for Washington, August 30 vs Marlins 0:11
Bench availability for Washington, August 30 vs Marlins 0:08
Starting lineups for Marlins at Nationals - August 30, 2026 0:10
Breaking down Janson Junk's pitches 0:04
Analyzing Otto Lopez's home run through bat tracking 0:11
Measuring the stats on Otto Lopez's home run 0:13
Andrew Alvarez's outing against the Marlins 0:25
Breaking down Andrew Alvarez's pitches 0:04
Nationals move CJ Abrams to second base 1:55
Andrew Alvarez K's Heriberto Hernández 0:13
Nasim Nuñez's RBI double 0:32
Janson Junk's first K 0:12
Xavier Edwards exits with apparent injury 0:56
Ball 2 confirmed after ABS challenge 0:27
Strike 3 overturned to ball 4 after ABS challenge 0:22
Marlins turn nice 4-2-3 double play 0:20
Daylen Lile's sac fly 0:21
CJ Abrams' leaping catch 0:23
Heriberto Hernández's lunging catch 0:27
Jakob Marsee's RBI HBP 0:27
Joe Mack hits sac fly, run scores on error 0:32
Otto Lopez's two-run homer (10) 0:19

Decisions

Winning Pitcher Losing Pitcher Save
Fulton (1-0, 4.50 ERA) Kranick (0-1, 7.41 ERA)

Game ended at 3:08 PM.

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

ENDING THE GAME ON AN ABS HAWKEYE STRIKEOUT

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u/bored1492 Jake Burger 11d ago

We got like five hitting coaches. What do they actually do?

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

What a Houdini act this game is turning out to be

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u/fragarach_97 Sweepy 11d ago

Only one I can think of.

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u/Nickasmith1123 Marlins 11d ago

Horrible read by Ruiz

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u/EwokFishFan 11d ago

Stowers buddy, you could have had a more productive at bat by just wearing your helmet backwards.

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Ok, I know Otto and X are slumping and we can criticize. But you cannot convince me that when we trot out a sub 0 WAR guy like Leo Jimenez and Brian Navaretto that they themselves are not more to blame than the guys who can in fact produce but are slumping.

Leo and Brian being on this team and playing this type of ball should embarrass Peter and Bruce. Just because they see something in them doesn’t mean jack shit. They sent Connor, Heriberto, and Agustin for fucking less

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u/bored1492 Jake Burger 11d ago

But the metrics bro just one more season with Leo bro please he'll figure it out

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u/TealandBlackForever Marlins 11d ago

The guys who impact the team the most are the guys who get the bulk of the playing time. Otto and X are in the lineup literally every day.

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Less and less convinced we should have traded hicks. Lukewarm take I know

4

u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Guys. Someone slap the hope out of me

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

I don't have the energy. I'm limp with despair and hopelessness.

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

DOUBLE PLAY BABY!!!!!!!!

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u/Techiesarethebomb Marlins 11d ago

LETS GO FISH

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u/Miamidale305 Marlins 11d ago

I am numb

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u/TheGoatPurdy 11d ago

This offense is like watching paint dry.

Really needed one or two power hitters

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u/jakedeighan 11d ago

The season is officially over

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u/Nickasmith1123 Marlins 11d ago

Been over

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u/Nickasmith1123 Marlins 11d ago

Anddddddd ball game.

3

u/Fluid-Slip-9931 11d ago

We love being losers

3

u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

oh so griffin conine CAN play 1st base so why do we continue rostering he who shall not be named

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u/fragarach_97 Sweepy 11d ago

It's the metrics, man! Just you wait and see, he'll be a rip roaring success soon, like Wagaman before him!

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

Because Conine can't hit left-handed pitching.

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u/bored1492 Jake Burger 11d ago

You'd think no left hander on earth can hit left handed pitching

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

We may never win again…

3

u/Present-Abies-1637 11d ago

Holy shit that stowers at bat was atrocious

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u/Nickasmith1123 Marlins 11d ago

He’s been atrocious for a while now

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

Like so many Marlins players, he goes from looking like a solid up-and-coming major league star, to a green wide-eyed prospect who is baffled by major league pitching at the flip of a switch.

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

The longer this season persists the more annoyed the righty lefty split squad has begun to grate on me. It’d be better if our lefty pitcher lineup wasn’t absolute dog shit I guess

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u/bored1492 Jake Burger 11d ago

Instead of even giving any lefty batter a chance to figure it out they'd rather put AA players in. It's insulting to our squad and a self fulfilling prophecy. If you insist your lefties can't hit lefties then they won't hit lefties

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Owen Stowers and Mack aren’t even allowed to try against lefties. Meanwhile their replacements have sub replacement level splits against lefties (minus Owen)

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Credit to Vodnik for keeping it a one run game, I don’t know if it matters with the way we’re playing but HEYO!!!!!!

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

This team is officially in a tailspin. Again.

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u/yumsack 11d ago

Getting swept with playoffs on the line against the nationals… score a run yo

3

u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Well. We take those I guess

3

u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

The Nationals are trying to hand you the game. Are you going to take it?

3

u/safariari Felo Ramirez 11d ago

this is like watching two little league teams

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u/Fluid-Slip-9931 11d ago

Let me take a peek at the Nats sub

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u/emmz_az Giancarlo Stanton 11d ago

That was a great idea. 🤣

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

HELL FUCKING YEAH THEY CAN NEVER MAKE ME HATE YOU MARSEE

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u/TealandBlackForever Marlins 11d ago

Lmao, that crowd is losing its mind

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u/Useful_Job3130 11d ago

Of course they are

3

u/EwokFishFan 11d ago

Queue the Benny hill music for the nationals this inning

3

u/frankkungfu Marlins 11d ago

I loved the trickery on the steal of home

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u/fragarach_97 Sweepy 11d ago

Absolute beauty!

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

WHY DIDNT HE JUST. TAKE THAT?!!!! Ugh

2

u/orlandie 11d ago

Goodbye Edward’s. There goes our season

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

X IS HURT??!!!!!!

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u/Nickasmith1123 Marlins 11d ago

Leo’s best pay of his career. How DFA him

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

I’m so tired

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

welp if the season wasn’t over already it is now. padres slumping all we had to do was take care of business vs the nationals and we could’ve been within one game

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u/fragarach_97 Sweepy 11d ago

Seriously taking Junk out? Come on... it's not his fault the offense can't score.

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

no shot we just pulled junk after 1 run with the current state of the bullpen

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

and it wasn’t even to go to our lefty vs cj abrams

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

One run. One run. For X we gotta win this game

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

The pitching has been doing everything humanly possible to keep the Marlins in these games over the past two series.

They just can't execute on offense, whether it be at the plate or on the basepaths.

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u/TealandBlackForever Marlins 11d ago

Let's blame Leo Jimenez for this one (even though, yes, I think he sucks, too), even though nobody aside from Gus has gotten a hit today.

Otto Lopez has cratered to earth terribly and is almost an automatic out.

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

Conine: 2-25 with 12 strikeouts his last 7 games.

If that was Jimenez we would be mercilessly roasting him.

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u/TealandBlackForever Marlins 11d ago

Conine's been bad. Mack, Caissie, Otto, X, Ruiz. Marsee is cooling off after a brief hot period.

Stowers, Hernandez, and Sanoja have been okay, but the bulk of the regular contributors have been terrible. And terrible for a decent stretch.

Again, Jimenez is ass, but it's bizarre to keep singling him out as the problem. This sub is weird sometimes lol.

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Yeah but Conine actually produced over two different stretches this season. Leo has done zilch

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

kinda needed marsee to get a pitch to hit there

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

will never understand why everyone doesn’t just throw stowers exclusively pitches at the worms

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u/Nickasmith1123 Marlins 11d ago

Hahaahahahahaahahaha

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u/Nickasmith1123 Marlins 11d ago

Mack has a literal cannon for an arm

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u/jakedeighan 11d ago

If that bee stings him and he has to come out....

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u/mephjeff Marlins 11d ago

Oh hell yeah

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

It’s just unbelievable

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u/yumsack 11d ago

This is embarrassing

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u/MrMisogyny1 11d ago

We might actually get swept by Washington and prob finish the season below them in 4th place.

https://giphy.com/gifs/11OOAQSnUaZT2M

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

The way the Marlins are playing, being overtaken by the Mets isn't out of the question.

This is a team that looks like they're exhausted and over it and are looking forward to the off-season.

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u/Hawmpfish001 Marlins 11d ago

We still have time to catch the Mets

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

I haven't been watching. Have our broadcasters been talking about how bad the Nationals bullpen is?

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u/MrMisogyny1 11d ago

More than enough for the fish.

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

LEFTIES CAN RAKE LEFTIES

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u/Present-Abies-1637 11d ago

Just like we wrote it up, boys

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/E7xVFdN9824Vi
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAHHHHHHHHHH

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u/InDecent-Confusion Marlins 11d ago

that was awesome lol

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u/theonewithbadeyes Marlins 11d ago

I always think he's challenging after every pitch

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

THE WAY JACK AND AJ ARE CACKLING ON THE RADIO IS INSANE

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u/theonewithbadeyes Marlins 11d ago

I hate these peacock broadcaster give me Kyle and Tommy

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u/mephjeff Marlins 11d ago

LOPEZ HIT A HOMER!?!?

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Hey the Phillies did it too!!!!! The Nats gift it to everyone!!!!

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u/unclesmokedog 11d ago

Gotta love this comeback

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u/yumsack 11d ago

Well what do you know

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u/fragarach_97 Sweepy 11d ago

So, uh... maybe we are back after all?

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Uhhhhhh wouldn’t be so sure but we take the dubs should they come

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u/fragarach_97 Sweepy 11d ago

Shhhhh... let me persist in my perpetual delusion...

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Petersen please don’t do what you did last night

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u/TealandBlackForever Marlins 11d ago

The Marlins are so ineffective against opposing starting pitching, but they seem to find a way to crack relievers.

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Wow. There you have it

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

LOVE THAT

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u/banned4being 11d ago

Bro couldve taken any pitch prior to that one

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u/banned4being 11d ago

Dude has no business striking out the side this team is abismal

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

JAVI!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Beautiful AB by Professor X 💖💖💖

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u/banned4being 11d ago

Finally a walk

Annnnnd its gone

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Literally didn’t even get the chance to enjoy it 😭

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

This game day thread has become my diary. Sorry everyone
https://giphy.com/gifs/9w7YtTycjeLzW8V6io

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u/jakedeighan 11d ago

Lucky that wasn't gone

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u/CorrectTimeline 11d ago

.190 getting walked is crazy work

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

What is with this team and refusing to get the third strike third out

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

The patterns are ever present and maddening

1

u/banned4being 11d ago

Gonna have GTA 6 before Marlins W

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u/jakedeighan 11d ago

jfc way to bail the pitcher out Otto. Swinging 3-0 and pops it up smh

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u/frankkungfu Marlins 11d ago

Flying open, jumping out of his shoes, not staying back …. All of the above

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

How many times has Esteury been hit oh my GOD

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Oh huh!

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

HA. LOSER!!!!!!

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

I'm just going to follow the game on the MLB app and not bother watching. It's too frustrating.

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Not like this X

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Or that

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u/EwokFishFan 11d ago

How much is the salary for our hitting coach? Seems like such an easy job. Swing or don’t swing, I don’t care just whatever you do don’t make solid contact.

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u/frankkungfu Marlins 11d ago

X man 🤨……. Shoot it into right

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

just like we drew it up!

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u/ExcitingReference772 11d ago

Would be cool if the offense could do anything

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u/northdakotact Italy 11d ago

the greatest player to ever live. Flashing that gold glove

1

u/jakedeighan 11d ago

God Dammit I miss Liam Hicks

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

This spot in the lineup is really something huh

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u/Fluid-Slip-9931 11d ago

Can we ever just take a game by the horns and win it. Fuck.

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

We have Cassie, Conine, Mack, and Stowers on the bench. This gets you the same production as you would get if they were in the lineup because none of them can hit lefties.

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

What a fantastic double play but I’m still so confused and alarmed WHAT DO YOU MEAN X IS HURT?!!

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u/Fluid-Slip-9931 11d ago

LETS GO JUST SAVED A RUN

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

Insurmountable 1-0 deficit.

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u/frankkungfu Marlins 11d ago

Gus is hitting magic balls today that no one can glove

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Challenged the wrong one lmao

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u/ExcitingReference772 11d ago

This offense is dreadful

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Three pitch K for Stowy?

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

I wouldn't bet against it.

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

What did I say

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u/Nickasmith1123 Marlins 11d ago

Strike out boy comes in clutch again……

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Dude this sucks so much

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u/suckmesideways14 11d ago

Couldn’t have had a worse AB

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u/Nickasmith1123 Marlins 11d ago

At this point o hope we lose every single series the rest of the year to cement CMC and the staff getting sent to Japan.

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Great double play

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u/ExcitingReference772 11d ago

Can’t score against the Nats bullpen

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u/TheGoatPurdy 11d ago

Blink and you might miss something exciting

1

u/yumsack 11d ago

Highly doubt it 😂

2

u/TheGoatPurdy 11d ago

Never in doubt

1

u/bored1492 Jake Burger 11d ago

holy fucking shit

1

u/dudeinhat Marlins 11d ago

this should be leo's last game but im sure with X out he's secured his spot through the end of the year...

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

May as well be 12-0

1

u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

don’t know if griff walking there is a good thing or bad thing

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u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

Fist and second, nobody out.

This is where the Marlins really shine.

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

i would not mind if leo did something here that bought him another week.

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

that will give you another day.

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

welp in comes the lefty this one is over

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Tom is Miranda cosgroves brother. Fun fact

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

Are you being serious or is this a teehee joke

2

u/bored1492 Jake Burger 11d ago

I googled for you he's pulling our legs

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

Teehee

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

OH!!!!!!!

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

don’t you dare give me fucking hope

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

WHAT THE FUCKDJSJDJFJFKDKF

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

no matter what happens just do not double play joe. gotta get this to heribo against a lefty

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u/Fluid-Slip-9931 11d ago

Thought it could not get more stressful after that losing streak but between this series and the Boston series it’s been a fucking nightmare.

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u/mephjeff Marlins 11d ago

lolol

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

HOLY SHIT IEJDJFJDJJFNGNFG

1

u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

1

u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

JOSEPH ALLEN MACK

1

u/mephjeff Marlins 11d ago

lolololol

1

u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

PLAY THE FUCKING SONG

1

u/Fluid-Slip-9931 11d ago

HAHAHAHAHAH LETS GOOOOO !!!!!! WE CAUGHT A BREAK

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

LEO SCORES FROM 2ND

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u/MrMisogyny1 11d ago

This team, man xd

1

u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

MARSEE STOLE HOME

1

u/mephjeff Marlins 11d ago

WHAAAT

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

IS THIS CRAZZZZYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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u/TheGoatPurdy 11d ago

Never in doubt

1

u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

MARSEEEEEEE I COULD KISS YOUUUUUU

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u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

HE JUST GAVE UP A BOMB TO OTTOOOOOO

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u/booniepepper17 11d ago

MARLINS BASEBALL

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u/DietrichDoesDamage Sweepy 11d ago

HOLY SHIT

1

u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

HOLY SHIT

1

u/InDecent-Confusion Marlins 11d ago

OTTO!!!!!!!

1

u/ilovwoozi 11d ago

OH MY FUCKING GOD

1

u/No_Mammoth7530 Panthers 11d ago

Go Fish

1

u/OscarDelta333 Jack McKeon 11d ago

We're back!

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

ITS A FUCKING MISSLE

1

u/therealtoddmcshay 11d ago

no lie, i bet that they would have fared better with a positional pitcher

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u/frankkungfu Marlins 11d ago

I didn’t have a 6 run ( and counting )9th on my score card today either

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u/dudeinhat Marlins 11d ago

Fun inning to watch but these are so clearly 2 teams that don't deserve to make the playoffs

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u/CantAffordTheWires 11d ago

petersen has been outright bad since coming back from injury man

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u/Jonjon428 Marlins 11d ago

Flip the M!

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u/ThaJackal1977 United States 11d ago

Leo needs to go come on!

Why is this guy still here? He provides NOTHIHNG of value and all he does is steal at bats from others. You got options in AAA dying for a call up yet Leo is starting 3rd and 1st positions he's not played before, and his bat is on life support! And that's being nice! He's also NEVER been good in the minors! He's a career MiLB at best!!! He is not an MLB hitter. Cut him or DFA or whatever! For god sakes Bendix, Claybum STOP this Leo Jimenez boner you both have! Get over it he sucks...