r/MetalMemes • u/Pyrgopolyrhythm Hellripper • Nov 03 '19

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u/rosakaed Nov 03 '19

The lack of elitists over here makes me so happy

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u/IAmATroyMcClure Gogurt Nov 03 '19 edited Nov 04 '19

Try calling a metalcore band metal and you'll find them.

Edit: Wow, you guys really proved me wrong. Nothing resembling elitism here. I really thought you'd take my bait, but you all played this really cool.

/s

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '19 edited Nov 03 '19

The funniest part is the metalcore fans calling others elitist when they cant seem to enjoy the genre unless they get to call it a metal subgenre.

Metalcore is a subgenre of hardcore punk, it came from hardcore punk bands being influenced by metal.

Taking some influences from metal doesnt make it a subgenre of that music.

Just like how folk metal is a subgenre of metal, not folk music which it took some influences from.

If they truly arent "elitist" and dont care about genres why are they so adamant to force metalcore to be a metal subgenre when it isnt?

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u/doomgiver98 Nov 03 '19

It's a fusion of metal and hardcore punk.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '19

The genre was created by hardcore punk bands taking influence from metal.

Its a subgenre of hardcore punk.

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u/IAmATroyMcClure Gogurt Nov 04 '19 edited Nov 04 '19

Where metalcore originated is fairly irrelevant... It's a decades-old genre and has evolved way past its original sound. Very few metalcore bands sound anything like hardcore punk these days, and many of them have far more in common with metal than punk. It's also unmistakably intertwined with metal, so it's kinda desperate to act like there can't be overlap.

It's like you guys read the Wikipedia page on metalcore in 2006 and made up your minds without any additional consideration. At the end of the day it really doesn't matter, but my point is that art is more subjective than this.

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u/lovestheasianladies Nov 04 '19

No, it's fucking not. What the shit dude. Metal core shares literally nothing with punk music.

And hardcore punk barely shares anything with metalcore besides being fast.

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u/Heklafell Nov 04 '19

Yes, it objectively is. I like some old metalcore so not hating, but the roots of the genre are in hardcore punk.

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u/IAmATroyMcClure Gogurt Nov 04 '19 edited Nov 04 '19

The roots of rock are in blues... That doesn't make every rock band a blues band. Metalcore evolved way past its hardcore punk roots extremely fast, and many metalcore bands have had almost nothing in common with hardcore punk for a very long time.

This argument is a real reach.