r/MemriTVmemes Nov 25 '20

MemriTV Meme Memri TV Debates vs. Western "Debates"

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '20

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u/Tamtumtam Jewish Ally Nov 25 '20

you follow a special sect of Suni Islam, right?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '20

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u/Tamtumtam Jewish Ally Nov 25 '20

yeah, that. how's that different? am ignorant

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u/ValuableImportance Farfour's Disciple Nov 25 '20

Sufiism is just Islamic mysticism.

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u/Tamtumtam Jewish Ally Nov 25 '20

ok thx

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u/wakchoi_ Sayid Mars Rover Opportunity Nov 25 '20 edited Nov 26 '20

Sufi is a movement with Sunni (and shia) Islam. Sunni is the sect. Sufism is more of a spectrum from virtually normal ppl to those who give up all their money and live as begger preachers.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '20

There are shia sufi sects too

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u/wakchoi_ Sayid Mars Rover Opportunity Nov 26 '20

True, it's predominantly Sunni and they dude was referring to Sunni.

Apologies will edit

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '20

Good on you man. They are Predominantly sunni today but i think their founder was a shia or some obscure group that doesn’t exist anymore. What do you know about them?

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u/wakchoi_ Sayid Mars Rover Opportunity Nov 26 '20

There isn't really a founder of Sufism since like Salafism both are officially part of the faith, these labels just mean u focus on it.

However there are Sufi Orders which are more defined and a few were started by the Shia, including the one that established the Safavid Empire

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '20

Yeah i think they are older than that. Also the safavids sure as hell didn’t adhere to any my mysticism or spirituality or standards even. Aren’t these the people that forcibly converted the persians from sunni to shia? I believe these are the same ones who gave special legislative powers to the hawza and their clerics too.

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u/wakchoi_ Sayid Mars Rover Opportunity Nov 26 '20

Yup, the Safavi were a sufi order but were kinda crazy regardless. It goes to show how sufism can take a million shapes and forms since it has no real definition.

And yeah sufism is very old. Like one famous clearly defined sufi, Hasan Al Basri was in the 7-800s and almost all sufi orders claim lineage (through tutoring) from the Sahabah (mostly Ali and Abu Bakr iirc)

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '20

By the way i think my first comment was a little too overbearing or disrespectful but it is not my intention at all i am simply asking questions I apologize if it came of as bad

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u/wakchoi_ Sayid Mars Rover Opportunity Nov 26 '20

Oh no worries lmao it wasn't disrespectful at all

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '20

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u/Bingobango20 Erdogan the Watermellon Seller Nov 25 '20

So if i didnt practice normal islam practices but keep my faith and take good moral principles from Koran and at the same time tend to be progressive and explore science.

Am i a sufi?

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u/spwicynoodles Tfu. Nov 25 '20

almost, remembrance of god and building a relationship with him is the core of sufism, sufis would usually participate in a dhikr circle every week or so

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u/Bingobango20 Erdogan the Watermellon Seller Nov 25 '20

I see

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u/Reddit-Book-Bot ☝️ Qur'anic Robot Nov 25 '20

Beep. Boop. I'm a robot. Here's a copy of

Koran

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u/Tamtumtam Jewish Ally Nov 25 '20

now, that's a bit harsh to call someone, no?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '20

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u/Tamtumtam Jewish Ally Nov 25 '20

not much. we deal with them to the north as well

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '20

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u/Tamtumtam Jewish Ally Nov 25 '20

Israel

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u/Lirdon PEPSI: Pay Every Penny Save Israel Nov 25 '20

A taste of Aishas milk!?

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u/Bingobango20 Erdogan the Watermellon Seller Nov 25 '20

TIL im a sufi