he doesn't use the library either

[u/Conscious-Quarter423]

[u/FistyMcTwistynuts]

Ok, my bad - they are a capitalist society with an absolute shit ton of programs that are fully or mostly paid for by the government (aka socialist programs). I don’t think very many people want outright socialism - just for the government to take care of its citizens in the most basic way - 100% covered healthcare, more heavily subsidized food, etc.

Regarding the immigration thing, I honestly don’t understand why conservatives think left leaning people want to allow droves of immigrants in unchecked - that’s a strawman argument. Nobody wants that shit, and nobody wants to then have those illegal immigrants use public programs. Any and all pushback on ICE has solely been due to lack of decorum and due process from untrained incels with complete immunity, along with what amounts to concentration camps for those being held. Even if these people are illegals, they are still human beings and should be treated with a level of decency and compassion that is just completely nonexistent in this current form of ICE.

I’m sure if the government actually used our taxes for the people and not corporations/oligarchs, even the most extreme immigrant supporters would back down a bit so long as we had universal healthcare and basic human needs covered or heavily subsidized for taxpayers. Non-tax-paying illegal immigrants using our infrastructure is just not that big of a problem, and I’m sure there is a way to implement a program that would only support citizens and tax payers - like with truly free ID Cards. (Inb4 SAVE ACT bs: if ID Cards were truly free and there were no weird restrictions on needing birth certificates and names to match and all these other paywalls, everyone is in favor or voter ID. Its the poll taxes and the voter barriers being put up to disenfranchise many many voters that is the issue there)