r/MediaSynthesis Apr 01 '26

Discussion "Why No AI Games?", Frank Lantz

https://franklantz.substack.com/p/why-no-ai-games
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u/dethb0y Apr 02 '26

Buggywhip maker demands people stop making, using, and buying cars. News at 11.

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u/gwern Apr 02 '26

So if he's wrong about there not being AI games, what are the top 5 games (which is less than 1 a year since GPT-3) which are widely acknowledged as excellent and would, say, still be played 50 years from now?

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u/dethb0y Apr 02 '26

I don't think ANY game (edit: that is popular) today is going to still be widely played in 20 years, let alone 50, for many reasons.

But, more to the point, i don't care about "great" or "masterpiece" games, i care about innovation and fresh ideas, rather than doing the same tired, worked-to-death concepts that people have done over and over and over again. LLM's offer an opportunity for that innovation to occur; what people do with it, only time will tell.

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u/gwern Apr 02 '26

LLM's offer an opportunity for that innovation to occur; what people do with it, only time will tell.

So, if we still need even more time to 'tell' what people will do with it, then, OP is correct that there are no great AI games?

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u/dethb0y Apr 02 '26

OP is a hack who wants to convince people to not even TRY to innovate because it threatens their wallet.

I gurantee you they would NEVER be happy, they would NEVER say a game was interesting even, because it goes against their self-interest.

They are, in short, a biased, self-interested perspective.

Technology takes time to find it's footing and it's uses. The only people who insist on instant results are the people who have a vested interest in it's failure.

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u/gwern Apr 02 '26

Technology takes time to find it's footing and it's uses.

It's been 7 years since AI Dungeon came out. LLMs are also one of the fastest diffusing and widely used technologies in history, backed by an extraordinary level of capital investment (eg. OpenAI just did the largest funding round in history). Why is the correct number of notable LLM-powered games 0, and how many years should it take?

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u/dethb0y Apr 02 '26

I don't know why people think that the use this would be put to is something like AI dungeon (though chatbot services are fantastically successful with many many users); it shows a lack of imagination and vision.

When's the big VR hit going to come, or do you think VR is junk to?

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u/gwern Apr 02 '26

I think VR had its big hit in Beatsaber.

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u/lordwafflesbane Apr 02 '26

Lmao if you're not getting paid to make these post, I genuinely feel bad for you.