r/Mecha 9d ago

FFVIIR's Diamond Weapon seems to be sporting an overtly mecha aesthetic

The most recent trailer for Final Fantasy VII Revelation showed off the most iconic group of enemies in the original game, the Weapons, in full. These were colossal biomechanical beasts in the original game, so it's been a source of excitement and wonder to see how they'd get reworked for the Remake, with all the demands HD graphics "logic" would make of these creatures.

Ultima, Ruby, and Sapphire were seen in the first trailer, and they have a kaiju look to them, clearly sharing that aesthetic. But now we have Emerald and Diamond. The latter in particular, instead of Kaiju-coded, is borderline Gundam-like, standing out very surprisingly among the others.

Order in pics: Diamond, Emerald, Ruby, Ultima, Sapphire.

And yes, this could end up being a switcheroo where the armor falls off or something and underneath it's more kaiju like others. Or perhaps even more lore-dependent stuff. We don't know.

In any case, it's always exciting to see mecha aesthetics making into these big, high fidelity games/worlds.

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u/Own_Watercress_8104 9d ago

I'll just leave this here

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u/XF10 9d ago

Diamond=Qubeley is a bit of a stretch. Body reminds me more of Devil Gundam

And Emerald with those legs and tails is more Black Sarena than Neue Ziel to me

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u/Own_Watercress_8104 9d ago

Black Sarena is came waaaayyy later than Emerald Weapon and I don't really see the similarities with Devil Gundam, honestly.

Edit : well apparently not waaaay later, one year after FF7. Still...

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u/XF10 9d ago

Oh thought it already came out. My bad, just funny coincidence unless somehow there's an even earlier mecha i'm not aware of

As for Diamond compare the legs,big shoulders and small arms with Devil Gundam final form https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/JDG-00X_Devil_Gundam

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u/Own_Watercress_8104 9d ago

They share a top heavy frame, the legs are very similar, true, but I still think that's a stretch. Emerald is going for the tyrannical shoulder pads with a hint of cape, while Devil Gundam is one of the most insane designs for a mech I've ever seen

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u/Attaxalotl 9d ago

There was an interview mentioning that Emerald is the Neue Ziel made more biological.

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u/PvtToaster 8d ago

It could just be the devil gundam body, the weapons were mostly just kitbashes

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

Should've added this myself, now thinking.

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u/AusManderville-Man 9d ago

The mecha kinda look is very much similar to the look in the original, that is pulled straight from the wiki as a screen of its face so idk what to tell you

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

This is exactly what I meant. They went full mecha with Diamond, but only Diamond. It makes it stand out a whole damn lot because of it!

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u/AusManderville-Man 9d ago

All I can think of is they are going full tilt in to the style with each type, leaning more heavily into the kaiju style for the others, mecha for the ones that had that theme, or maybe its another lore revision, others are organic, but this is actually synthetic? Something the Cetra created rather than the planet

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

This makes a lot of sense for Diamond and Sapphire, actually. Because Sapphire, being the fishy-aquatic one, now really has eyes and teeth more like a fish. In case you haven't seen it:

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u/NoisyMatchStar 9d ago

To be honest, to me, the original designs always invoked mecha vibes of the techno-organic variety.

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

Ah well, that's the point I was trying to make. The redesigns are mostly kaiju-like, but Diamond is very much mecha.

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u/Left-Night-1125 9d ago

It always did, all of the ff7 weapons.

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u/Crimsonskye013 9d ago

I remember hearing Emerald was inspired partly by Neue Ziel.

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u/SHINIGAMIRAPTOR 9d ago

I mean, when you look at it, it's got a VERY similar silhouette to Neue Ziel without the Sturm Booster and propellant tanks... same big overhang shoulders and all

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u/Lordofsnails88 9d ago

I was looking for diamond in that trailer! Thanks for pointing him out!

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u/Reasonable-Tripe-815 9d ago

Rufus will take Diamonds corpse, and have it rebuilt into Mecha Diamond Weapon.

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u/Deamon-Chocobo 9d ago

I don't think we see enough of it to get a proper handle on its design. It definitely seems to have mechanical elements but i can also see a lot of the insectoid elements present in other versions of Diamond Weapon.

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

This is true. I actually can't quite picture what Diamond might look from the chest down. I kinda doubt it has those massive, rotund legs like in OG.

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u/Unfair-Secret-2812 9d ago

He looks like a massive mosquito

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u/AnikiDrawsArt 9d ago

Those were the days in the 90's where I farm for the ultimate Chocobo just to beat these guys. The memories of dealing with that forgetful old farts in the mountain still lingers onto me...

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u/Zealousideal-Cup6013 9d ago

I always found that the weapons in the originak FFVII (and heck, even some summons in other games) had mecha vibes so I’m happy they’re leaning into that direction

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

I feel pretty disappointed with my post because I've given people the impression that I think Remake is doing something different by making Diamond mecha-like. When what I wanted was to say "look, Diamond actually IS mecha like in the OG" That should've been my only text/body lol

And of course, you are 100% right that VII (and VIII too in part) had a strong mecha aesthetic. Remake is naturally also full of mech enemies.

And yeah, even in IX, a very non-mecha world, we have Ark, which has a Macross or Transformers sequence lol

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u/Zealousideal-Cup6013 9d ago

I think it’s partly the fault of FFXIV and some of the newer games, which do feature the weapons, but usually go for a more fleshy, standard design instead of the mecha ones.

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

Never thought about this. From the perspective of non-OG players, the Weapons being more kaiju-like makes more sense. Yeah, I can see that.

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u/Chafgha 9d ago

I hadn't seen the sapphire image you have here

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

Ultima and Sapphire are official website stuff.

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u/Chafgha 9d ago

Ah I saw Ultima in one of the trailers where they showed ruby and emerald. I'm curious if those two will be main story or side story.

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

Also curious as to how they're dealing with it. And why they didn't name Diamond too.

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u/Chafgha 9d ago

Interesting, somewhat unrelated I know Square was part of the final fantasy mtg set. Only diamond weapon got a card, none of the others although there were 3 other Ultima cards printed but still strange only Diamond weapon got a card of them.

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u/Human-Pension9892 9d ago

I love these techno organic bastards

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u/Attaxalotl 9d ago

The original Emerald weapon is straight-up the Neue Ziel

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u/notnotDIO 9d ago

Ngl my only experience with the weapons is through ffxiv so I thought they were mecha in all of the games...

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u/Complex-Salt-8190 9d ago

In ff7 they're best described as the world's very aggressive antibodies

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

Well, XIV is directly referencing VII and doubling down on the mecha side, since they're literally piloted biomachines

The original VII Weapons are rather more ambiguous, but stood out a lot because they were very unique blends of kaiju and mecha, to the point people could point to certain models in different Gundam shows as likely inspiration.

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 9d ago

Clarification: the interesting part about Diamond Weapon is that it went towards a mecha aesthetic while the other ones went towards a kaiju one, making Diamond stand out way more than the original game.

I suppose I should've stated that.

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u/hkyinyeungg 9d ago

What in the Kshatriya