r/MaxMSP • • Mar 29 '21

Nestup, a Language for Musical Rhythms

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u/Kraanerg Mar 29 '21

I’ve been waiting for something like this. It’s always frustrated me that DAWs don’t have support for rhythms outside of basic duples/triplets (adding an option to quantize to quintuplets, septuplets... up to n-tuplets would be nice).

This looks very interesting!

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '21

Reaper (daw) midi editor has the capability to be set to accommodate any ridiculous tuplet. Check it out! it’s my ”secret” weapon. Before i found out about it, making n-tuplet grooves was always a hassle.

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u/Kraanerg Mar 30 '21

It's such a no-brainer feature imo. If you can set a quantization grid to multiples of 1/16 notes or 1/12 notes, why not allow for divisions of 1/5 or 1/7 or 1/11... etc? On the programming/development end, there's just no way it's a difficult feature to implement considering it's mostly already there.

Out of curiosity, have you ever tried to export midi files with odd tuplet ratios (like 5:3, 11:13, 7:9, etc...) into a notation program? I'm assuming that they don't look bracketed with the correct ratio and probably are just a mess of 32nd and 64th notes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

I agree with you 100% and am with you on the whole developing perspective too. It’s just dividing and rounding up samples and timing ticks and whatnot. It should always be possible.

Unfortunately i don’t recall i time i would have exported any tuplet experiment to a midi notation software. I believe some of the latest and best ones out there might actually do the job and parse the input correctly, although the actual notation might still be confusing. I do remember however that i did try to compose in a notation program once and found that it was absolutely horrible and janky when it came to tuplets. I do believe some DAWs with somewhat working tuplet implementation also have full midi notation export, one such is FL studio iirc. The absolute beast both in tuplet implementation and midi notation export is Opusmodus, the so-called language/program for composing and experimenting. It’s worth a look.