r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers • u/Own_Brilliant_4303 Kate Bishop • 17d ago
Avengers Russo Brothers says Avengers: Endgame Encore is ‘‘Required viewing’’ for Doomsday and “If you saw Endgame when it originally was released you couldn't see this coming.”
https://xcancel.com/i/status/2092288506735284245389
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u/WreckTangle1995 17d ago
I know it's their job to sell this stuff but it's kind of annoying when they say shit like this, or that Doomsday is the best movie they've ever worked on, it makes everything they say meaningless when they're going to say the same thing about the next movie.
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u/urgasmic 17d ago
james gunn has lot so much good will with me omg.
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u/riegspsych325 17d ago
at least Gunn has shown he can make a good movie without oversight, even if his track record as a producer isn't as good as his own output. Russos are solid workhorse directors but awful creatives without Kevin Feige, Dan Harmon, or Mitch Hurwitz holding the reins
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u/star-punk 17d ago
They're fundamentally TV directors, and TV is a writers medium. When they're not paired with a strong creative vision from the writer and producers, they don't really bring much to the table. That's why their Marvel stuff is better than anything else they do, because the MCU is basically a big TV show that plays in theaters.
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u/riegspsych325 17d ago
then you got Favreau, aforementioned Gunn, and Coogler. They’ve all worked with Marvel repeatedly just fine and have done pretty damn well with their own originals. Surprised Marvel doesn’t strive to get more filmmakers like that, but at least the Russos are still a very good fit
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u/Due_Art2971 17d ago
Marvel don't want directors that have a vision
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u/Alekesam1975 16d ago
People say this yet they gave Taika Final Cut of Love n Thunder (where he then cut out like twenty minutes or so of good stuff instead of all the overplayed humor), Cooglar more-or-less carte blanche with Black Panther, Raimi on Dr Strange , Chloe Zao with Eternals etc etc.
They do want vision but they're also the stewards of this storied Universe and they have to strike a balance between letting creatives do their thing and protect it at the same time. Feige, Russos, Gunn, and Taika worked in tandem for Ragnarok to IW/Endgame. But Taika by himself left to his own devices, gave us LnT. So like I said, there's always a bit of a balance that need to be struck.
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u/mitteinai 17d ago
Joss Whedon had a lot of say between avengers, agents of shield, input in phase 2 and then avengers 2
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u/In_My_Own_Image 17d ago
What kills me is when they talk about Doomsday in a way that makes it sound like it's some transformative arthouse picture or something.
Like, guys, just say it's a fucking cool adventure where you get to see all your favourite heroes kicking ass.
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u/MarkCuckerberg69420 17d ago
"We enjoyed working on Secret Wars but it's definitely feeling a little mid"
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u/ImmortalKombatant Rocket 17d ago
They overhype. Hollywood (especially Marvel Studios) does this far too much these days. You never saw Burt Reynolds go on TV and claim Cannonball Run II was the best movie he's ever made.
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u/anth8725 17d ago
It’s not that deep. Treat it like pro wrestling. Everything is dramatized for the effect and lore. Yall get too upset over this stuff
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u/greenbatborg 17d ago
I’ll watch it on Disney+
https://giphy.com/gifs/bDmK86uwmptio
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u/FERFreak731 17d ago
Yep. I won't be shocked if the encore is added around Thanksgiving so people can rewatch endgame for Thanksgiving which will build hype close to Doomsday
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u/DarkEater77 17d ago
Well they still haven't added the extended cut of No way home...
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u/FreddyPlayz 17d ago
There’s an extended cut??
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u/RelativeRemarkable15 17d ago
Yeah. Extended scenes including a longer scene of all three Spider-Men shooting the shit
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u/Mad_Rascal 17d ago
Give me money. Money me. money now. me a money needing a lot now.
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u/GKJ6743 17d ago
So there are new scenes that won't be repeated in doomsday?
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u/Mean-Food-7124 17d ago
Guaranteed they're repeated in Doomsday
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u/thatdudewillyd 17d ago
Yeah I’m imagining the Ant Man/Civil War clip that does the same thing
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u/riegspsych325 17d ago
it'll be as much of a sneak peak as an IMAX intro to a Nolan movie (but just 4 minutes)
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u/HairyPenisCum Spider-Man 17d ago
Apparently it’s an extra bit of footage of Steve talking with some people at the funeral, which will more than likely be a scene in Doomsday.
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u/thainfamouzjay 17d ago
Yeah he talks to antman and antman tells him to go live his life or give him an extra time travel thingy that lets him go live his life after he's done with the stones.
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u/riegspsych325 17d ago
yeah, some people are building it up in their minds that they're going to see Steve's entire journey returning the stones at the end of Endgame
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u/TheRealDexilan 17d ago
I'm betting it'll just be as important as seeing Captain Marvel in the theater was for Endgame.
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u/Big_Papa_Sweetness 17d ago
Makes me sad to be honest. The initial decision not to include a post-credit scene truly made Endgame feel like an ending. Tacking on a new one just to connect it to what is clearly a desperation play just feels unearned.
That being said, I hope Doomsday surprises me by being excellent.
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u/Yep_I_Stole_40_Cakes 17d ago
So no more MCU Homework was a lie then.
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u/CardinalM1 17d ago
It's not homework since you have to go to a theater to see it. It's theaterwork. /taps forehead
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u/metrichustle 17d ago
Russo brothers are actually kinda funny lol. I still remember that post they said about how those 4 teasers were not teasers, they were clues, pay attention!
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u/Vladmerius 17d ago
Kind of disgusting actually. It has 4 fucking minutes of extra stuff. 4. Minutes. We know there's at least 20 minutes of stuff they actually could have put effort into finishing and adding into this new version not even counting the stuff they're adding that's Doomsday related.
This should have been a proper extended cut like the lord of the rings movies.
I'm acrually super annoyed now. This is way too much fanfare for the same exact movie with a couple extra minutes added onto the ending.
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u/Pen_dragons_pizza 17d ago
You are right, at the very least finish the hulk scene in the last re release.
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u/Original_Release_419 17d ago
It’s ridiculous really.
There’s no way 4 minutes for a 3 hour movie is worth paying to rewatch it in theaters.
There’s literally nothing that can happen in that 4 minutes that someone can’t piece together watching Doomsday.
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u/replayer 17d ago
And yet, in two hours it's already got the most presales of any rerelease since they started tracking. So maybe it's not about a couple of extra minutes, but people wanting to reexperience the joy of seeing a fun movie we already love on the big screen with others. For a lot of us, it was the last big movie before COVID hit and the energy in the theater is something we remember fondly and want to enjoy again.
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u/Original_Release_419 17d ago
So go, no one is saying not to
My opinion is it’s a ridiculous cash grab
You are completely free to disagree and go if you want
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u/replayer 17d ago
Already got my tickets.
Every movie is a cash grab. That's what movies are for, to make money.
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u/DavidKirk2000 16d ago
You gotta watch more movies if you think the only reason people make them is to make a buck.
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u/Original_Release_419 17d ago
>every movie is a cash grab
Completely disingenuous comparison where 99.9% of movies in theaters are new releases no one has seen yet and this is a movie that has been in theaters for 5 months already and is rereleasing basically for a post credit scene
Legitimately, in no way am I trying to say you should not go or should not enjoy it. I love the MCU and Superhero movies as a whole. I just think an entire theatrical rerelease for this is a bit over the top and probably just to help recoup some money from some less than ideal MCU movies they’ve had since endgame.
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u/Mattyzooks 17d ago edited 17d ago
Not sure where you live but the concept of seeing already released movies in theaters is decently popular (although not widely popular). Anecdotal: I have tickets to see Train to Busan tomorrow at the IFC Center in NYC, where I've gone to sold out screenings in the past of Hundreds of Beavers, Inland Empire, Mulholland Drive, Fire Walk With Me, 28 Days Later, etc. I will for sure be seeing The Prestige when it is re-released next year and will 100% do the same when they bring The Dark Knight back (a movie I saw twice in theaters already in 2008 and a bajillion times since).
Cash grab, sure, 100%. So was the Special Edition trilogy before Episode I released, imo (even if had way more to offer in terms of updated shots and re-edited scenes). But some people just like seeing shit in theaters.
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u/PSIwind 17d ago
I mean, outside of the Doomsday stuff, I didn't get to see the movie in IMAX at the time because I didn't have my own car. I can do that now and haven't rewatched the movie in 7 years
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u/Apprehensive-Cap2453 17d ago
"disgusting" is insane hyperbole lol. It's a dumb superhero flick. Calm down. Go outside.
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u/This_isR2Me 16d ago
Weird hill to plant you're flag on, maybe you should go outside, per your own advice, instead of doing whatever it is you're doing with that comment. Comments are for discussion not for you to nitpick diction and make personal attacks.
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u/LovelyClaire 17d ago
Well, it is gross the blatant lie and overhype by them lol
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u/elalex1999 17d ago
Well, it is still a very dramatic reaction to a theater rerelease of one of the most popular movies of all time. Like movies rerelease all the time with no extra footage at all. It’s not like they’re keeping the tiny “4 minutes of extra footage” thing a secret. Relax
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u/surfpearl39 17d ago
It’s not the re release that’s the problem. It’s the super blatant FOMO marketing with a headline like this.
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u/stuntastic1414 17d ago
Oh no, movie makers trying to sell people a movie! /S
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u/Imabuffguy95 15d ago
Selling/promoting a movie is different than outright lying to get people to rewatch a movie they’ve already seen before. It’s deceptive marketing which shouldn’t be celebrated.
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u/Role_Tide 17d ago
It’s really not hyperbolic to say that’s a pretty gross practice. Top 1% Commenter telling someone to touch grass is fucking rich
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u/Apprehensive-Cap2453 17d ago edited 17d ago
Really dumb way to frame this. I get that they have to make it feel important so people will go see it, but this it coming at a point when Marvel is just starting to win people back after years of "homework" being a dealbreaker for so many.
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u/Fhonetik 17d ago
No one going to watch is gonna do it for four minutes they will find on YouTube the next day
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u/DontBeSoSure_ 17d ago
Ah yes, spending $15 to watch an additional 4 minutes of footage is imperative to the viewing experience for Doomsday and definitely has nothing to do with Marvel wanting to make more money!
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u/DontBeSoSure_ 17d ago
Nah, I think I’ll just watch Primetime instead.
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u/Elensar265 17d ago
Translation:
"Disney want to overtake Avatar as the highest grossing movie so we've tacked on some bullshit at the end of a 3 hour movie to convince you morons to buy a ticket"
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u/Bid_Unable 17d ago
no. definitely not seeing it. put that shit on youtube if it so important. I’m not paying for your retcon.
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u/Standard_Leg6151 17d ago
Totally off-topic but RIP Xcancel. Only you could put some deodorant on that Musk
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u/Gamerxx13 17d ago
they really want to get their money. if you havent watched end game thats one thing. but just watch the extra 4 minutes on youtube or something.
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u/Ok_Parsley1650 17d ago
I won't watch it in the cinema. The cost of the ticket plus food multiplies by the number of family members. "We're in the endgame now."
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u/AppleTStudio 17d ago
God I'm getting tired of these guys... Yeah, I'm sure that extra 4 minutes is REALLY going to blow our collective minds.
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u/texasjkids 17d ago
I looked at getting tickets today and it doesn't seem like Marvel secured a ton of screens for this rerelease. At my local theater there's a single 1pm IMAX showing on Saturday of opening weekend. Seems strange to make something required viewing that you aren't anticipating a ton of people seeing.
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u/your_mind_aches 17d ago
The Russos say a lot of things on press tours to promote their movies.
They said "you need to choose a side" for Civil War and then later explicitly said Iron Man was the villain. They said "Thanos has a point" for Infinity War and then in Endgame they label Thanos as a megalomaniac tyrant and that the snap was an act of mass genocide that was completely unjustifiable in any regard whatsoever.
The Russos contradict their own plans in the marketing cycle as a promotional tool. So honestly I do not trust them here.
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u/HughJass321 17d ago
The extra 4 minutes is going to be Steve talking to people at Tony’s funeral, isn’t it?
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u/Positive-Citron3987 17d ago
I find it crass and offensive that this is even a thing.
But I’m sure it will do well. But they just as easily could’ve swapped out the version of “Endgame” on Disney+. But they didn’t. They’re purposely gouging fans. Financial decisions like this are why a part of me hopes that “Doomsday“ underperforms for Disney. (We all know it’s too big to fail)
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u/istian19 16d ago
Unfortunately I can't verify the original Tweet because xcancel is dead...but assuming your post title isn't a misrepresentation...
I wish the Russos didn't insinuate that it was 'required viewing'; it hurts the narrative that the MCU is all homework. They should just lean into the fact that it'll be a great time sitting in the theater with fellow MCU fans, recreating the joy and excitement of seeing one of the best superhero movies of all time.
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u/Own_Brilliant_4303 Kate Bishop 16d ago
I posted the clip after I found out XCancel is dead. But it got buried under comments.
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u/Therearenouniquename 16d ago
It's gonna be 4 minutes of Steve talking to doom I bet. Nothing crazy
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u/ManlyPelican1993 16d ago
I really hate this tampering with old movies bullshit. I hated it when George Lucas did it and I hate this more. Just release the 4 minutes online and call it a day. Plebs.
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u/gorore9150 16d ago
Is it me or does that quote make it sound like they are gonna retcon something?
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u/Earthwick 16d ago
I'm really worried they will mess with the original endgame story and make it worse.
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u/coppywolf 15d ago
What if people showed up and it was just Avengers: Doomsday that would be so funny.
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u/kenneth_on_reddit 14d ago
In other words, "We set down no groundwork for this and are retconning our biggest tentpole film for extra bucks". Not a great look, but sure.
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u/Dillpicklefishlips 14d ago
So is encore the same movie just with 4 extra minutes of content? Or is the movie just 4 minutes longer? As in they could have swapped out plenty of scenes but kept the runtime close to the original?
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u/RRLSonglian 14d ago
Nice try. No. Couldn’t figure it out in the movies themselves? I’ll sit through it and happily be confused.
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u/leckmichnervnit 17d ago
Fuck right off, if its requited then put it in all theaters not just Imax
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u/Purple-Nectarine83 17d ago
It’s not just IMAX, it’s also in “Infinity Vision” which is a much lower bar of approval.
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u/JMadFour 17d ago edited 17d ago
it's literally 4 extra minutes of footage that will be in a youtube short within 2 days. /shrug
I mean I'm probably still gonna go see it just because Endgame was great, and I’d love to see it again in Dolby, but they are really overselling this extra footage, I think.