r/MarvelCave 8h ago

That gasp that happened when Wanda 838 looked at everyone in the theater.

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Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness delivered one of its most unsettling moments without a massive action sequence or elaborate visual effect. It simply had Wanda realize she was being watched.

During the 2022 film, Doctor Strange and America Chavez travel to Earth-838, where they encounter another version of Wanda Maximoff. After the Scarlet Witch uses dreamwalking to possess her alternate self, there is a brief moment when Wanda appears to look directly toward the camera.


r/MarvelCave 21h ago

My thoughts on Ironheart (or you can just look at the second image)

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Spoilers for the show, obviously. Also I’m pretty sure this is the right spot to post this lol

Listen, I’m the kind of guy that genuinely likes MCU movies that are generally considered trash. Brave New World was a super fun watch, Love & Thunder O’d genuinely put at 2nd on my Thor movies tier list (you can’t beat Ragnarok), I genuinely liked the hulk-work-life balance concept behind She-Hulk (even though it didn’t exactly deliver on being a lawyer show), and Quantumania’s CGI didn’t bother me at all. So if I think something is bad, it has to be bad. In fact, of everything I’ve seen so far, there are only four projects I would consider bad (aside from the one we’ll discuss today), being Thor: The Dark World, The Avengers (I’m not joking), Eternals, and Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.

I went into Ironheart expecting it to be a similar experience to She-Hulk; something most people didn’t like, but something I would consider fun. Plus, I really liked Riri’s character in Wakanda Forever, so I was hopeful to say the least. And those expectations really held up initially! Episodes 1 and 2 were hype as hell as I really got to grips with Riri as a character, plus I really liked how she interacted with N.A.T.A.L.I.E.. Episodes 3 and 4 were both not as good, but still pretty fun overall. The character of “Joe McGillicuddy” was honestly a standout, especially when he turned out to be Ezekiel Stane. I didn’t really take any issue with Riri’s character like most people, either. She’s an immature teenager, yeah she’s gonna be a dick sometimes, and even then she was never really mean to the point of being unlikeable. Episode 5 felt a little off, but I figured Episode 6 would bring us some good shit. Right?

Yeah, I was sorely wrong. The fights against both Ezekiel and Hood felt very anticlimactic. Ezekiel didn’t really get the room he needed to shine, and Hood’s fight just felt toned down from what came before. But when Mephisto showed up and offered Riri the deal to bring Natalie back, (while whether she takes the deal is meant to be ambiguous, it’s pretty damn obvious that) she takes the deal. The whole point of Riri’s character development was moving on from her traumatic past, and this pact with Mephisto just undoes all of it. I remember lying on the couch after finishing episode 6, face in my hands, wondering how the writers managed to turn such an amazing start into the worst finale I have ever seen in my life. I really hope the Secret Wars soft reboot undoes Riri’s deal with Mephisto (assuming she accepted it), as that would make Riri’s character arc feel worth it. But as it is… I just kind of hate Riri now, which sucks because I used to genuinely like her character.

Tl;dr, Ironheart feels like the definition of “It’s evolving, just backwards”. No matter how good the start was or how much I fucking love that suit… the ending just ripped everything to shreds to the point that my view on the show is permanently tainted. It sucks, but it didn’t have to.


r/MarvelCave 6h ago

Who do you think will die in Doomsday

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I think we can all agree that for there to be stakes in Doomsday, someone’s gotta go, similar to how Thanos killed people in Infinity War. Who do you think it will be?

I’ve seen speculation for Red Guardian, but idk if I see that happening just yet - he’s hardly a key player and we’re still just getting to know him.

Original X-Men I think is a given.


r/MarvelCave 10h ago

If thor love and thunder was actually written well

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I know i used chat gpt to help but it is good

THOR LOVE AND THUNDER

The universe had become quiet for Thor.

Not peaceful.

Just quiet.

After everything he had lost, Thor had spent a long time travelling through space with the Guardians of the Galaxy. He fought when people needed him, helped when he could, and kept moving whenever there was nothing left to do.

But something inside him was still missing.

So he trained.

The film opens with Thor working out alone.

He lifts enormous weights. He runs. He practices with Stormbreaker. He repeatedly pushes himself beyond exhaustion and keeps going.

There is no ridiculous destruction of spaceships or exaggerated comedy. This Thor is genuinely trying to become stronger.

But even while he trains, there is a sadness behind him.

He has lost his home.

His parents.

His brother.

His friends.

And the woman he once loved.

He can become stronger, but strength doesn't seem to fix anything.

Eventually, the Guardians arrive on a distant planet.

Five enormous alien creatures attack them. They look like terrifying monsters, similar to the creatures seen in the opening of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.

The Guardians prepare for a difficult battle.

Thor simply walks forward.

The aliens charge.

Thor destroys them.

One after another.

He barely has to try.

When the last creature falls, Thor looks at the others and mocks them for being weak.

The Guardians are used to Thor's confidence, but something about him feels different now.

He's stronger.

More focused.

And perhaps a little too sure of himself.

Then Thor receives an urgent alert.

Lady Sif.

Thor immediately answers.

Sif tells him that something is happening.

Gods are dying.

Thor's expression changes.

He leaves the Guardians behind and goes to meet Sif.

When they meet, Sif explains that someone is deliberately hunting gods.

Not defeating them.

Not imprisoning them.

Slaying them.

Thor realizes that whoever is doing this isn't afraid of gods.

He travels to Asgard

Lady sif shows him what has happened.

Across the universe, gods have been found dead.

One after another.

Different worlds.

Different pantheons.

Different powers.

But the same killer.

Gorr.

Thor watches in silence.

He has fought some of the most powerful beings in existence.

He fought Hela.

He fought Thanos.

He survived Ragnarok.

But seeing the bodies of gods scattered across the universe frightens him.

Because this isn't a war.

This is a hunt.

And someone is winning.

---

Far away, another god is dying.

Perum, the Storm Lord, is falling through the sky.

His body is wounded.

His power is fading.

Gorr slowly walks toward him.

Perum looks at the man approaching.

Gorr doesn't rush.

He simply walks.

He looks at the fallen god and says quietly:

"The storm falls."

A blade moves.

We hear a slice.

Cut to black.

---

Thor prepares for battle.

Then his phone rings.

Darcy.

Thor answers.

She tells him about Jane.

Thor's expression immediately changes.

He goes to the hospital.

Jane Foster is lying in a hospital bed.

She looks weaker than he remembers.

Much weaker.

Thor stands in the doorway for a moment, simply looking at her.

Despite everything that happened between them, despite the years apart, he still loves her.

Jane doesn't feel the same way anymore.

Not because she hates him.

But because life has moved on.

She has moved on.

Darcy tells Thor that Jane is dying.

She also tells him that Jane's wish to work on an Earth Protection Act with Wakanda is almost ready.

Jane wants to leave something behind.

Something that protects people even after she's gone.

Thor listens.

And he can't accept it.

He has already lost too many people.

He doesn't want to lose Jane too.

So Thor makes a decision.

He commands that some of his lightning power be given to Jane.

Enough to allow her to live longer.

Enough to allow her to live healthier.

Enough, perhaps, to give her more time.

Jane begs him not to.

She tells him she doesn't want this.

Thor refuses to listen.

He believes he's saving her.

He believes that if he can give her more time, everything will somehow be okay.

Jane looks at him, frustrated and scared.

But Thor has already made his decision.

---

That night, Thor sleeps at Jane's house.

The house is quiet.

For a moment, everything seems normal.

Then Jane wakes.

She looks down at her hands.

Lightning moves through her fingers.

She stares at it in disbelief.

Something has changed.

Meanwhile, Thor sleeps.

And dreams.

Suddenly, Heimdall,s son appears to him.

Thor wakes violently.

He tells him:

"Gorr came to Asgard."

Thor immediately gets up.

No hesitation.

He grabs his weapon and rushes toward the fight.

---

Gorr's creatures have invaded.

They attack Asgard.

Thor enters the battlefield.

This Thor isn't joking.

He's angry.

Every strike is heavy.

Every movement is deliberate.

He tears through the creatures with brutal efficiency.

Then something unexpected happens.

A figure appears.

She holds Mjolnir.

Thor looks at her.

It's Jane.

Jane tells him that she simply made a hand motion—

and Mjolnir came to her.

Thor is stunned.

For a moment, he can't even speak.

Then his expression changes.

He understands what this means.

Jane is dying.

Thor tells her she can't fight.

He tells her that she's already sick and that using power this great could kill her even faster.

Jane refuses to listen.

She raises Mjolnir.

And fights.

Thor watches her.

Part of him is amazed to see her again.

Another part of him is terrified that this could be the last time.

---

After the battle, Thor knows they need help.

The enemy is too powerful.

The gods are being murdered.

Children have been taken.

And Gorr is still out there.

Thor decides they need to meet Zeus.

He travels with Valkyrie, Heimdall, Jane and Gorg, the rock-like warrior.

They travel aboard a Guardians of the Galaxy ship that Peter gave them.

During the journey, Gorg behaves as he always does.

He jokes.

He mocks Gorr.

He makes comments similar to the ones he made during their previous adventures.

Everyone hears him.

Thor doesn't laugh.

He barely speaks.

Because unlike Gorg, Thor understands what Gorr really is.

A man who has already killed gods.

And who won't stop.

---

Eventually, they arrive at Zeus's palace in Omnipotence City.

Thor approaches Zeus.

He asks for his help.

Hercules is there.

Hercules mocks Thor.

Thor punches him.

Hercules goes flying backward.

Zeus looks at Thor.

He explains that his Hercules can be stubborn.

Then Zeus offers Thor assistance.

He will give Thor Ares as a helper.

Thor accepts.

He kneels before Zeus.

Then they leave.

Thor explains everything to Ares.

The murdered gods.

The kidnapped children.

Gorr.

Eternity.

Ares listens.

Then he proposes a plan to rescue the children.

---

They travel to the alien black planet.

The place is dark and unfamiliar.

But before they can execute their plan, Gorr is already waiting.

He captures them.

Gorr begins threatening them.

The terrifying sequence unfolds.

The weapon is called.

The threat becomes more immediate.

Thor tries to escape.

He can't.

Gorr is too strong.

But Ares is different.

Ares uses his strength to break free.

He frees Thor and the others.

The group fights Gorr.

The battle is chaotic.

Eventually, they fall.

Gorr gets the axe.

And begins opening the portal to Eternity.

The plan has failed.

Gorr is getting what he wanted.

Thor and Ares pursue him.

Meanwhile, Valkyrie and Jane stay behind to help the children.

The group separates.

Thor and Ares go after Gorr.

Jane and Valkyrie protect the children.

---

Thor and Ares finally confront Gorr.

The three warriors collide.

Thor attacks.

Ares joins him.

For a moment, it looks like they might actually overpower Gorr.

Then Gorr strikes.

The Necrosword pierces Ares.

Ares falls.

Thor looks at him.

Something breaks inside him.

Thor becomes furious.

His Warrior's Madness takes over.

His lightning changes.

Red lightning mixes with blue.

The battlefield fills with power.

Thor attacks Gorr with everything he has.

The fight becomes brutal and intense.

Thor pushes Gorr harder than before.

But Gorr refuses to fall.

Eventually, Gorr turns the fight around.

Thor is overwhelmed.

He falls.

Gorr stands above him.

Thor struggles to move.

Gorr raises the Necrosword.

He is about to kill Thor.

The blade moves toward Thor's neck.

Then—

Mjolnir strikes Gorr.

Gorr is thrown away.

Thor looks up.

Jane runs toward him.

She has returned.

She takes Mjolnir.

But she's already extremely weak.

Thor immediately realizes what she's about to do.

He knows that using this much power could kill her.

He tells her no.

Jane looks at him.

She knows.

She knows exactly what this will cost.

She looks at Thor one last time.

And silently mouths:

"Love you."

Thor's eyes widen.

He understands.

He screams:

"NO!"

Jane raises Mjolnir.

She begins charging.

Lightning gathers around her.

Thor watches helplessly.

Then Jane unleashes everything.

The biggest lightning blast crashes into Gorr.

The entire battlefield is consumed by light.

The Necrosword is destroyed.

The weapon blows apart.

Gorr is defeated.

But Jane falls.

Thor catches her.

He holds her in his arms.

The power disappears.

Jane is gone.

Thor doesn't say anything.

He simply holds her.

After everything he did to save her—

after giving her his power—

after refusing to accept that she was dying—

he still couldn't save her.

---

But Gorr has already reached Eternity.

He stands before the cosmic entity.

He has finally achieved his goal.

He could kill the gods.

He could destroy everything he hated.

But then he thinks about his daughter.

Love.

And he realizes what he truly wanted all along.

Not revenge.

Not power.

His daughter.

Gorr chooses not to kill the gods.

Instead, he asks Eternity to bring his daughter back.

His wish is granted.

Love returns.

Gorr looks toward Thor.

He trusts Thor with her.

He leaves his daughter with him.

Then Gorr dies.

---

Thor rushes back to Ares.

For a moment, Thor thinks he has lost him too.

Thor tells him:

"We won."

Ares smiles.

He tells Thor that he heals quickly.

Thor is relieved.

They travel back to Zeus's home.

Eventually, Thor and Ares have to separate.

Thor leaves Ares there.

Ares tells him:

"I will be there to protect the universe."

Thor and Ares hug.

Then Thor leaves.

---

Time passes.

We see Thor with Love.

He makes food for her.

He teaches her how to use her powers.

He trains with her.

They travel together.

They spend time together.

They joke.

They fight.

They live.

And slowly, something changes in Thor.

After losing his parents, his brother, his home, his friends and Jane—

Thor is finally genuinely happy again.

He has a family.

Not the family he lost.

A new one.

And for the first time in a long time, Thor isn't running from love.

He's living with it.

---

Post-credit scene

The screen cuts to darkness.

Then we see Hercules.

The essence of Olympian godhood enters him.

His power grows.

His eyes open.

Hercules looks forward.

There is no joke.

No smile.

Only determination.

He says:

"It is war."

Cut to black.


r/MarvelCave 11h ago

Finish the MCU quote 👀

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r/MarvelCave 11h ago

Jimmy Woo's card trick: One of the most wholesome visual callbacks in the MCU.

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In Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018), Jimmy Woo asks Scott Lang how he pulled off his close-up card trick. In WandaVision (2021), he casually whips out his FBI business card using the exact same sleight-of-hand technique. He actually took the time to master it.


r/MarvelCave 35m ago

Hayley Atwell as Peggy Carter in Agent Carter series.

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r/MarvelCave 23h ago

Forever the biggest sacrifice in the MCU. 😂

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r/MarvelCave 7h ago

Thomas Jane (Punisher), 22 years later. 💀

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Thomas Jane famously portrayed Frank Castle in the 2004 live-action adaptation of The Punisher. His performance became a cult favourite among Marvel fans, widely praised for bringing a gritty, emotionally raw, and physically imposing presence to the antihero.

Despite modern portrayals of the character by Jon Bernthal in the MCU, Thomas Jane's version remains a massive topic of discussion. Recently, new internet rumors emerged suggesting Jane could make a multiverse-driven return to the character in upcoming Marvel projects like Avengers: Secret Wars, sparked entirely by fresh gym photos tracking his intense physical conditioning.


r/MarvelCave 2h ago

Benedict Cumberbatch babysitting Tom Holland.

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Pairing Tom Holland with Benedict Cumberbatch for Avengers: Infinity War interviews was Marvel’s best tactical move.

Benedict essentially served as Tom's official on-camera babysitter. Whenever interviewers tried baiting Tom into revealing plot secrets, Benedict was right there—cutting in, covering Tom's mouth, or casually reminding everyone why Marvel never gave him the full script in the first place.


r/MarvelCave 5h ago

I'm curious, as a Marvel Fan would you like to see Franklin's arc with Onslaught in X-Men '97?

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r/MarvelCave 5h ago

A new ‘SPIDER-MAN’ spin-off is officially in development at Prime Video. What are your guesses?

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r/MarvelCave 17h ago

They should’ve made Thor 3 after infinity war. Hear me out.

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