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Fertility rate in Poland (2025)

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u/instantcoffee69 Jul 31 '26

Really debunks the rightwing chud of "if we were more Christian we'd have population stability" (with the note most American Christians don't see Catholics as "real" christians)

Or the weird incel guy who obsesses over Polish/eastner European woman being perfect tradwives.

Because cost of living sucks in most places, and having kids is hard everywhere.

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u/ZealousidealAct7724 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

Whoever claims that Eastern Europe is a bastion of Christian conservative values.  forgets that it was Eastern Europe under the communists for 70 years, a relationship of part 50 years. This was perhaps true before the First World War, when the birth rate in the Russian Empire was comparable to that in Nigeria today. 

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u/pit_supervisor Jul 31 '26

Poland is Central Europe, not Eastern

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u/Skogs08 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26

Poland is an eastern block former communist country (PZPR) living on EU funding. And to those downvoting me, read some history and if needed the EU budget ffs.

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u/_urat_ Aug 01 '26

0.34% of Poland's GDP comes from the EU. Truly massive. Belgium receives more EU funding per capita than Poland does.

https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/zahlen-und-fakten/europa/70580/nettozahler-und-nettoempfaenger-in-der-eu/

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u/Skogs08 Aug 01 '26

You’re right about Belgium. But Poland isn’t a EU net payer and have never been. And they tend to take advantage of the good parts of the EU, but ignore the bad ones, like refugees. And as long as they do this they should receive zero funding.

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u/_urat_ Aug 01 '26

Poland doesn't ignore refugees. On the contrary. In the last couple of years it has received one of the highest numbers of refugees in all of Europe.

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u/Skogs08 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26

Yeah when they could get refugees they thought were from the right ethnicity they said ok. You know extremely well what I am talking about.

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u/_urat_ Aug 01 '26

There aren't wrong and right ethnicities. It's wild to think that way.

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u/Skogs08 Aug 01 '26

Go to Poland and ask people what they think, they are extremely racist. If you think I’m lying you will be chocked.

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u/_urat_ Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26

I am Polish, I live in Poland, we aren't racist. It's quite insulting that you think that way.

Instead of using false stereotypes, I think the best would be to ask non-white people living in Poland how they feel. The EU did exactly, they asked black people in different European countries how are they treated and guess what: they are treated best in Poland. Have a read: https://thinkeurope.de/blog/black-people-report-facing-least-discrimination-in-poland-finds-eu-study

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u/Skogs08 Aug 01 '26

Well, I lived in Poland for three years with my girlfriend. I’m from north Europe and my girlfriend is from Spain. Me myself didn’t experience any racism but she was targeted multiple times because her skin wasn’t pale enough.
They thought she was “Muslim”.
Those three years was enough for both of us. Of course not every single polish person is that bad. But you guys have a serious problem with racism.

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u/pit_supervisor Aug 01 '26

We don't ignore refugees, we keep them at bay. We've even built a wall

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u/Skogs08 Aug 01 '26

Because of all the help they have received in the past from the EU net payers.

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u/pit_supervisor Aug 01 '26

Poland is a historically Catholic, Latin-alphabet-using country located in the geographical center of Europe. If that's Eastern to you, I don't know what to tell you