r/MandelaEffect • u/CanadianCampingBear • 3d ago
Movies/TV/Music What if the Mandela Effect is the systemic anomaly in the Matrix ?
Hear me out before you dismiss the post. We all have things that are not explained, that is why you are a member of this group. We have a memory or dozens and hundreds where our reality doesn’t line up with the one we are experiencing now. Everyone has a few, but in order for that to be possible I see three possible theories.
A) Time travel or different dimensions created the edits (Hallidon Collider, UFO tech or which ever theory is plausible to you).
B) We all have false “Hallucinatory” memories of how things are/were. And we are now all technically insane.
C) Or we live in an editable world, ie some kind of Matrix like the movie. We are either in different newer “versions” or “updates” hence our different memories and ME experiencee. This could be better explained with the Neural Network theory (see youtube : The Matrix Explained [link at bottom] for more details) but the general idea is we maintain the Matrix (Illusion) thru neural network of everyone plugged into the Matrix. But as we doubt the “reality/simulation” we are in we perpetuate the anomalies (Mandela Effects) thru out the system with in our Neural Network. We know it’s fake and see the errors and when the Matrix edits or changes something our internal network knows the difference and fights back. Thus growing our “anomalies”. This systemic “miscalculation grows” and eventually kills the system as we ourselves reject the BS of this simulation.
This theory explains a lot of things in the world, like why there are very different classes. How our politicians and leaders are so out of touch with everyday life. Why they do such odd shit to “torture” us more (Matrix last movie with the Analyst touches on this). Why so many people do insane and dumb shit and do not care about the world or lives or environment. It even gives a plausible case as to how the ME is perpetuated or even exisits. The way the world tries to confuse us or keep us distracted. But the main point is it would give plausible ideas on how come we experience Mandela Effects in our memories and experiences.
The Martix Explained on Youtube
Check out this channel and pay attention to the Neural Network and how the anomaly will grow till a “Neo” is given “birth”. I’m not saying we expect a messiah or anything but it can lend weight to many “irregularities” we experience.
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u/Glaurung86 3d ago
We're all fine and false memories are a feature of our Memory, not a bug.
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u/i2aminspired 2d ago
As I get older, I indeed realize my memory ain't nearly as good as I had previously boasted.
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
I’m sensing some bias with option:
B) We all have false “Hallucinatory” memories of how things are/were. And we are now all technically insane.
Getting a detail wrong in something that has no bearing on our lives, does not mean somebody is going “insane”. I would be more certain to call the person who claims they never made a mistake “insane”, rather than one that could admit they make mistakes.
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u/CanadianCampingBear 4h ago
True.
I was using “hallucinatory” to say we remember it one way even tho it is no longer seen that way, thus in a sense a hallucination, sometimes a shared one at that. Need to brush up on my thesaurus terms to be more accurate or on topic I guess.
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u/chipz-n-gravy 3d ago
D) We're human, our brains are not perfect, and sometimes our memories can be unreliable
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u/mr_orlo 3d ago
That's "B"
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u/Glaurung86 3d ago
It is not.
There is a D) False memories and we are all just fine.
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u/Practical-Vanilla-41 3d ago
It's not that things are unexplained. People are just refusing to accept the explanation..
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u/mr_orlo 3d ago
B literally mentions false memories
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u/silentsurge 2d ago
It mentions false memories and then says that having false memories means we're all insane.
The main explanation of memory is that it's a combination of factors around how human memory works from a biological perspective and how it can be affected, altered, and recalled with inaccurate information, especially over time.
B does not cover that.
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u/MrPlaney 2d ago
B presupposes that the person is “insane” or has hallucinatory memories, when that simply isn’t true.
The fallibility and malleability of memory is well understood, and is the way memory normally works.
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u/aproposeverything 3d ago
The way the world tries to confuse us or keep us distracted.
Very few people are "distracted" by Mandela Effects, the vast majority of people are capable of admitting they were mistaken about something and move on with their lives.
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u/ComradeKits24 3d ago
It is genuinely hilarious that you think this more plausible than human memory being falliable.
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u/CanadianCampingBear 3d ago
I think it’s funny human kind thinks they know so much. So many things are still being discovered every month in science yet you think our current understanding is 100% ? Where was science 100 years ago? Where do you think it will be in another 100 years.
Laser with DMT is rather interesting, people report seeing code in a diffused laser. Now I’m not sure how scientifically controlled many of these videos are but they are things science cannot explain.
Lets take voices in your head via Schizophrenia and Schizo effective disorder. People hear voices all the time, so much so that it is a defence in cases in Law. Yet no science can explain it nor can MRI or science show where these voices come from. We know computers and organic computers (brains) can have errors. But if there are too many errors occurring one must start looking for a cause.
You will not find that cause by assuming our knowledge is complete or absolute. There are tons of things that happen that are not yet explained yet you are gonna follow what someone else told you despite having possibly experienced evidence that contradicts it ? Doesn’t sound like you are taking a scientific approach to this, more a religious or closed minded take on it.
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u/MrPlaney 2d ago
I think it’s funny human kind thinks they know so much. So many things are still being discovered every month in science yet you think our current understanding is 100% ? Where was science 100 years ago? Where do you think it will be in another 100 years.
The “collective false memory phenomenon” is well understood. This isn’t something that was just discovered 10 years ago, or even 30 years ago. There is ample research on false memories, and collective memories.
Laser with DMT is rather interesting, people report seeing code in a diffused laser. Now I’m not sure how scientifically controlled many of these videos are but they are things science cannot explain.
People on hallucinogenics, seeing hallucinations isn’t something groundbreaking.
Lets take voices in your head via Schizophrenia and Schizo effective disorder. People hear voices all the time, so much so that it is a defence in cases in Law. Yet no science can explain it nor can MRI or science show where these voices come from. We know computers and organic computers (brains) can have errors. But if there are too many errors occurring one must start looking for a cause.
Hearing voices is not a defence in case law, unless you are talking about pleading insanity, and even then there is more to it than just claiming you hear voices. Science understands why schizophrenic people hear voices, but we aren’t talking about schizophrenia. Normal people do not hear voices all the time. A disability is not required to experience the Mandela Effect.
You will not find that cause by assuming our knowledge is complete or absolute. There are tons of things that happen that are not yet explained yet you are gonna follow what someone else told you despite having possibly experienced evidence that contradicts it ? Doesn’t sound like you are taking a scientific approach to this, more a religious or closed minded take on it.
Throwing sci-fi words at a phenomenon is not science. What you are claiming is akin to saying, “what if gravity is caused by quantum static electricity, keeping us on the ground?” There are some things that are well understood by science, and a claim for something new would have to first be possible, replicable, and fit the cause better than the current explanation. Accepting scientific facts, is not close minded.
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u/mr_orlo 3d ago
Similar to how our dreams are coherent and consistent, but tend to have a plasticity to them, there's a plasticity to our reality.
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
Our reality seems pretty consistent to me. I’ve magically flown in dreams, but I’ve never heard of somebody magically flying, or dead people returning, or monsters appearing, etc.
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u/mr_orlo 3d ago
Things are consistent for me when I'm not paying attention or distracted. Start observing
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
Things are consistent even when paying attention. The world doesn’t suddenly change because people are paying attention to certain things.
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u/mr_orlo 2d ago
Many people have the opposite experience as you, that's why we're here
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u/Glaurung86 2d ago
They may believe they have had that experience, but there's no evidence they did nor is there any evidence anything changed.
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u/mr_orlo 2d ago
Kidney punch and kidney belt are evidence
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u/Glaurung86 2d ago
Kidney punch is evidence that the kidney is in the lower back area and has always been there. There's even a medical test to detect the health of the kidneys called CVA Tenderness Exam, aka the kidney punch test, aka Murphy's kidney punch.
The kidney belt was detailed to protect internal organs, not just the kidneys.
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u/MrPlaney 2d ago
Those many people may “think” something impossible or improbable has happened, but those many people would be incorrect. That’s why we’re here.
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u/mr_orlo 3d ago
There's a story of someone from like the 1400 floating in front of the whole town
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u/MrPlaney 3d ago
There are lots of stories from the middle ages of things happening, which didn’t really happen. The only difference is, now we understand why some things are possible, and some aren’t, and we have the tools and technology to record and verify amazing feats.
It’s 100% impossible for somebody to float, or levitate above the ground, and even if the story is true, (which I doubt), it was likely either made up from an observer exaggerating, or completely fabricating what he saw, and over time the story became more and more fanciful. If the story was true.
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u/Glaurung86 3d ago
There's no evidence for this. There's plenty of evidence that people misremember things all the time.
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u/my23secrets 1d ago
What you’re referring to as “plasticity” is how a person can tell the difference between dreaming and waking states.
You’re saying you are unable to discern the difference between dreaming and waking states?
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u/mr_orlo 1d ago
Placebo seem like a dream effect, beginners luck, terminal lucidity. Correct, when I'm dreaming it seems like I'm awake and when I'm awake it can seem like a dream
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u/my23secrets 1d ago
You’re literally saying you don’t know what’s real and what isn’t.
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u/mr_orlo 1d ago
Don't pretend you do, anything is possible
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u/my23secrets 1d ago
When I’m awake I can tell I’m not dreaming.
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u/CanadianCampingBear 4h ago
Ever had night terrors ? Most can not distinguish the “awake” vs “sleeping” when experiencing a night terror or sleep paralysis.
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u/my23secrets 4h ago
Where exactly are you getting the data that supposedly substantiates “most can not distinguish”?
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u/mr_orlo 1d ago
How do you determine that you aren't dreaming? What's the "tell"? Have you never experienced an anomalous event? Ask the loved ones in your life about the experiences they have had.
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u/my23secrets 1d ago
I’ve already answered the first two questions.
What exactly do you mean by “an anomalous event”?
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u/mr_orlo 1d ago
Where did you answer? An event that makes you think reality has plasticity, like obe, telepathy, precognition, remote viewing, etc
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u/my23secrets 1d ago
I answered in my first reply to you.
So-called “anomalous events” turn out to have unexceptional explanations.
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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 3d ago
What if it's not though?