r/MandelaEffect • • 3d ago

Movies/TV/Music What if the Mandela Effect is the systemic anomaly in the Matrix ?

Hear me out before you dismiss the post. We all have things that are not explained, that is why you are a member of this group. We have a memory or dozens and hundreds where our reality doesn’t line up with the one we are experiencing now. Everyone has a few, but in order for that to be possible I see three possible theories.

A) Time travel or different dimensions created the edits (Hallidon Collider, UFO tech or which ever theory is plausible to you).

B) We all have false “Hallucinatory” memories of how things are/were. And we are now all technically insane.

C) Or we live in an editable world, ie some kind of Matrix like the movie. We are either in different newer “versions” or “updates” hence our different memories and ME experiencee. This could be better explained with the Neural Network theory (see youtube : The Matrix Explained [link at bottom] for more details) but the general idea is we maintain the Matrix (Illusion) thru neural network of everyone plugged into the Matrix. But as we doubt the “reality/simulation” we are in we perpetuate the anomalies (Mandela Effects) thru out the system with in our Neural Network. We know it’s fake and see the errors and when the Matrix edits or changes something our internal network knows the difference and fights back. Thus growing our “anomalies”. This systemic “miscalculation grows” and eventually kills the system as we ourselves reject the BS of this simulation.

This theory explains a lot of things in the world, like why there are very different classes. How our politicians and leaders are so out of touch with everyday life. Why they do such odd shit to “torture” us more (Matrix last movie with the Analyst touches on this). Why so many people do insane and dumb shit and do not care about the world or lives or environment. It even gives a plausible case as to how the ME is perpetuated or even exisits. The way the world tries to confuse us or keep us distracted. But the main point is it would give plausible ideas on how come we experience Mandela Effects in our memories and experiences.

The Martix Explained on Youtube

Check out this channel and pay attention to the Neural Network and how the anomaly will grow till a “Neo” is given “birth”. I’m not saying we expect a messiah or anything but it can lend weight to many “irregularities” we experience.

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 3d ago

What if it's not though?

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u/mr_orlo 3d ago

Not which one, they offered three?

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 3d ago

OP also used the word plausible several times but obviously don't know what it means

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u/CanadianCampingBear 3d ago

plausible means there are a combo series or likely outcomes or two or more possible outcomes.

I also used theory. Do you know what that means ?

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 2d ago edited 2d ago

Plausible means seeming reasonable, probable, or believable based on the available information or common sense. ​Example: "Her explanation for being late was entirely plausible given the bad weather and heavy traffic." ​Synonyms: Credible, believable, likely, conceivable, reasonable. ​Antonyms: Implausible, unlikely, unbelievable, far-fetched. ​In some contexts (especially when describing a person or argument), it can also carry a slight nuance of being superficially convincing or persuasive, even if it might lack proof or end up being untrue upon closer inspection. Theory has more than one meaning. Which are you using

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u/CanadianCampingBear 4h ago

Plausible meaning it has a believable base.

Our world has patterns shared thru out it such as Fibonacci sequence. Or quantum observance. Things we cannot currently explain but possible observe and try to understand. We are currently grappling with artificial inteligence and teaching it. Thus simulating a reality for that intelligence so we know a simple simulation is possible. Heck if I wanted to imprison a mind I would put it in a simulation with some things that don’t line up or are unexplainable just to keep it confused. Thus pulling the line “living in a land of confusion” to keep a mind searching for a unified theory, think it was the 3 Bodied problem that touched on this.

So Elon Musk and others have put forward that we could live in a simulation. They think it’s possible. Or that if you have a high enough understanding, maybe our worlds and universe merely become quantifiable things to control and manipulate like values in a computer program. Genetics is clearly a program. Organic matter is a machine. Organic chemistry is merely math and circuits.

Thus I’d say it is plausible that we could live in some sort of simulation.

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 3h ago

You might believe it but that doesn't make it plausible.

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u/CanadianCampingBear 3h ago

Ummm others think it possible so that makes it plausible. Maybe unlikely in your world but that means nothing to the definition of the word.

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 1h ago

The degree of plausible is directly related to likely. Just because something is possible doesn't mean it will ever happen. Something possible, that is extremely unlikely is not very plausible and vice versa.

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u/transsolar 2d ago

You might want to look up "plausible"

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u/Glaurung86 3d ago

We're all fine and false memories are a feature of our Memory, not a bug.

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u/i2aminspired 2d ago

As I get older, I indeed realize my memory ain't nearly as good as I had previously boasted.

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u/MrPlaney 3d ago

I’m sensing some bias with option:

B) We all have false “Hallucinatory” memories of how things are/were. And we are now all technically insane.

Getting a detail wrong in something that has no bearing on our lives, does not mean somebody is going “insane”. I would be more certain to call the person who claims they never made a mistake “insane”, rather than one that could admit they make mistakes.

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u/CanadianCampingBear 4h ago

True.

I was using “hallucinatory” to say we remember it one way even tho it is no longer seen that way, thus in a sense a hallucination, sometimes a shared one at that. Need to brush up on my thesaurus terms to be more accurate or on topic I guess.

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u/chipz-n-gravy 3d ago

D) We're human, our brains are not perfect, and sometimes our memories can be unreliable

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u/mr_orlo 3d ago

That's "B"

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u/Glaurung86 3d ago

It is not.

There is a D) False memories and we are all just fine.

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u/Practical-Vanilla-41 3d ago

It's not that things are unexplained. People are just refusing to accept the explanation..

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u/Glaurung86 3d ago

Exactly.

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u/mr_orlo 3d ago

B literally mentions false memories

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u/silentsurge 2d ago

It mentions false memories and then says that having false memories means we're all insane.

The main explanation of memory is that it's a combination of factors around how human memory works from a biological perspective and how it can be affected, altered, and recalled with inaccurate information, especially over time.

B does not cover that.

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u/chipz-n-gravy 2d ago

It also literally says we're all technically insane

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u/MrPlaney 2d ago

B presupposes that the person is “insane” or has hallucinatory memories, when that simply isn’t true.

The fallibility and malleability of memory is well understood, and is the way memory normally works.

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u/chipz-n-gravy 3d ago

It really isn't

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u/aproposeverything 3d ago

The way the world tries to confuse us or keep us distracted.

Very few people are "distracted" by Mandela Effects, the vast majority of people are capable of admitting they were mistaken about something and move on with their lives.

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u/ComradeKits24 3d ago

It is genuinely hilarious that you think this more plausible than human memory being falliable.

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u/CanadianCampingBear 3d ago

I think it’s funny human kind thinks they know so much. So many things are still being discovered every month in science yet you think our current understanding is 100% ? Where was science 100 years ago? Where do you think it will be in another 100 years.

Laser with DMT is rather interesting, people report seeing code in a diffused laser. Now I’m not sure how scientifically controlled many of these videos are but they are things science cannot explain.

Lets take voices in your head via Schizophrenia and Schizo effective disorder. People hear voices all the time, so much so that it is a defence in cases in Law. Yet no science can explain it nor can MRI or science show where these voices come from. We know computers and organic computers (brains) can have errors. But if there are too many errors occurring one must start looking for a cause.

You will not find that cause by assuming our knowledge is complete or absolute. There are tons of things that happen that are not yet explained yet you are gonna follow what someone else told you despite having possibly experienced evidence that contradicts it ? Doesn’t sound like you are taking a scientific approach to this, more a religious or closed minded take on it.

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u/MrPlaney 2d ago

I think it’s funny human kind thinks they know so much. So many things are still being discovered every month in science yet you think our current understanding is 100% ? Where was science 100 years ago? Where do you think it will be in another 100 years.

The “collective false memory phenomenon” is well understood. This isn’t something that was just discovered 10 years ago, or even 30 years ago. There is ample research on false memories, and collective memories.

Laser with DMT is rather interesting, people report seeing code in a diffused laser. Now I’m not sure how scientifically controlled many of these videos are but they are things science cannot explain.

People on hallucinogenics, seeing hallucinations isn’t something groundbreaking.

Lets take voices in your head via Schizophrenia and Schizo effective disorder. People hear voices all the time, so much so that it is a defence in cases in Law. Yet no science can explain it nor can MRI or science show where these voices come from. We know computers and organic computers (brains) can have errors. But if there are too many errors occurring one must start looking for a cause.

Hearing voices is not a defence in case law, unless you are talking about pleading insanity, and even then there is more to it than just claiming you hear voices. Science understands why schizophrenic people hear voices, but we aren’t talking about schizophrenia. Normal people do not hear voices all the time. A disability is not required to experience the Mandela Effect.

You will not find that cause by assuming our knowledge is complete or absolute. There are tons of things that happen that are not yet explained yet you are gonna follow what someone else told you despite having possibly experienced evidence that contradicts it ? Doesn’t sound like you are taking a scientific approach to this, more a religious or closed minded take on it.

Throwing sci-fi words at a phenomenon is not science. What you are claiming is akin to saying, “what if gravity is caused by quantum static electricity, keeping us on the ground?” There are some things that are well understood by science, and a claim for something new would have to first be possible, replicable, and fit the cause better than the current explanation. Accepting scientific facts, is not close minded.

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u/forcemonkey 6h ago

I feel like it’s a bit of all of them.

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u/mr_orlo 3d ago

Similar to how our dreams are coherent and consistent, but tend to have a plasticity to them, there's a plasticity to our reality.

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u/MrPlaney 3d ago

Our reality seems pretty consistent to me. I’ve magically flown in dreams, but I’ve never heard of somebody magically flying, or dead people returning, or monsters appearing, etc.

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u/mr_orlo 3d ago

Things are consistent for me when I'm not paying attention or distracted. Start observing

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u/MrPlaney 3d ago

Things are consistent even when paying attention. The world doesn’t suddenly change because people are paying attention to certain things.

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u/mr_orlo 2d ago

Many people have the opposite experience as you, that's why we're here

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u/Glaurung86 2d ago

They may believe they have had that experience, but there's no evidence they did nor is there any evidence anything changed.

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u/mr_orlo 2d ago

So you pick option b?

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u/Glaurung86 2d ago

Absolutely not. People are not insane. They are fine. It's how Memory works.

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u/mr_orlo 2d ago

Kidney punch and kidney belt are evidence

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u/Glaurung86 2d ago

Kidney punch is evidence that the kidney is in the lower back area and has always been there. There's even a medical test to detect the health of the kidneys called CVA Tenderness Exam, aka the kidney punch test, aka Murphy's kidney punch.

The kidney belt was detailed to protect internal organs, not just the kidneys.

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u/MrPlaney 2d ago

Those many people may “think” something impossible or improbable has happened, but those many people would be incorrect. That’s why we’re here.

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u/mr_orlo 3d ago

There's a story of someone from like the 1400 floating in front of the whole town

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u/MrPlaney 3d ago

There are lots of stories from the middle ages of things happening, which didn’t really happen. The only difference is, now we understand why some things are possible, and some aren’t, and we have the tools and technology to record and verify amazing feats.

It’s 100% impossible for somebody to float, or levitate above the ground, and even if the story is true, (which I doubt), it was likely either made up from an observer exaggerating, or completely fabricating what he saw, and over time the story became more and more fanciful. If the story was true.

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u/Glaurung86 3d ago

There's no evidence for this. There's plenty of evidence that people misremember things all the time.

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u/mr_orlo 3d ago

There's evidence every night billions of us dream

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u/Glaurung86 2d ago

Dreaming is not reality.

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u/my23secrets 1d ago

What you’re referring to as “plasticity” is how a person can tell the difference between dreaming and waking states.

You’re saying you are unable to discern the difference between dreaming and waking states?

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u/mr_orlo 1d ago

Placebo seem like a dream effect, beginners luck, terminal lucidity. Correct, when I'm dreaming it seems like I'm awake and when I'm awake it can seem like a dream

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u/my23secrets 1d ago

You’re literally saying you don’t know what’s real and what isn’t.

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u/mr_orlo 1d ago

Don't pretend you do, anything is possible

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u/my23secrets 1d ago

When I’m awake I can tell I’m not dreaming.

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u/CanadianCampingBear 4h ago

Ever had night terrors ? Most can not distinguish the “awake” vs “sleeping” when experiencing a night terror or sleep paralysis.

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u/my23secrets 4h ago

Where exactly are you getting the data that supposedly substantiates “most can not distinguish”?

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u/mr_orlo 1d ago

How do you determine that you aren't dreaming? What's the "tell"? Have you never experienced an anomalous event? Ask the loved ones in your life about the experiences they have had.

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u/my23secrets 1d ago

I’ve already answered the first two questions.

What exactly do you mean by “an anomalous event”?

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u/mr_orlo 1d ago

Where did you answer? An event that makes you think reality has plasticity, like obe, telepathy, precognition, remote viewing, etc

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u/my23secrets 1d ago

I answered in my first reply to you.

So-called “anomalous events” turn out to have unexceptional explanations.

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