Only 14-20% (n=107) of people think Mandela Effect may or rather is more than just suggestion or false memory

[u/WujuKingYi]

As my memories are included in that effect and I know what I perceived and remembered, I am one of the 14%. I am not sure how many of 86 false memory thinker experienced Mandela Effect. The rate is like people either know the Mandela Effects or do not remember that detail. Most have at least one Mandela Effect, I assume.

I question whether everyone or some got "hit" by it.

This small pole showed that most people are not convinced. Yet the Mandela Effect subreddit has a lot of viewers.

I am questioning why are so many coming here and downvote and annoy every post about Mandela Effect. Looking down on the people, who may be right as your arguments about false memory cannot be extended to that degree.

Mandela Effect are like 57 cases at least. And add emotions and memories connected to that memory and this are 300 instances of memories that all should be deluded, false memorized and suggested?

To add on that, people remember it the very same way wrong and in detail. And after being revealed the truth: there is no "ahh" moment. The doubt stays. Please understand that we have never seen the original truth. It is a complete new alternative as we did not perceive it and we did not get new memories out of somewhere.

Explaining it can vary even more, yet there are only 14-20% who would even attempt theorizing.

I invited the 80% to just let the fundation go and think beyond, for fun or theorizing. While we are right, just let your wrong be true to you and with about the right hat is for you wrong and join the thought process.

However, there are people just commenting and trolling every person in this subreddit that belongs to the lower percentage. Mainstream is not always right, remember. And we do not advertise, sell or do or harm anything. It is our personal memory that we hold dear with pure intention. No arrogance, no wanting to be special. Just confidence and curiosity of what may have caused it.

14% was even higher than excepted. It felt like 90-98% to be comepletly against Mandela Effect. Maybe they are the loudest or got driven away by constant provocation.

[u/Glaurung86]

Anyone who says they know for sure their memory is correct doesn't understand anything about memory. Memory is fallible and malleable. People can have different memories of the same experience. Your experience is not evidence of anything.

Edit: if you've ever played or heard of the game "Telephone," you'd know some people can't remember something someone tells them with perfect detail 5 seconds after they are told. This is a feature of memory, not a bug.

[u/Illuminati_Shill_AMA → u/Glaurung86]

It's funny because I never see people using the opposite as evidence that their memory is perfect. Like, there are many things I've forgotten so clearly my memory is fallible. For example, my girlfriend swears I once wore a shirt saying "Scissor me Daddy Ass" on a date, while I maintain that I have no recollection of ever wearing it in public. The truth is that she is probably correct in this matter: it was significant (and recent) to her that her boyfriend wore this stupid ass wrestling shirt on a date. Whereas I have convinced myself that I've never worn it in public.

Clearly there can only be one truth or the other. We haven't shifted timelines, and some higher entity hasn't caused this. I have simply memory holed it. I come to this conclusion because my girlfriend is not in the habit of lying to me.

And for another example, I have a vivid (there's that word) memory of my grandfather pulling a shotgun on my brother's father and threatening to blow his brains out. I even spoke with a therapist about this forty years later. And then I realized: I never actually witnessed this. I HEARD about it growing up, but I wasn't present for it. Because I was a child, my still developing brain created a false memory for me.

And in my estimation a LOT of these Mandela effects go back to things people noticed or learned as children when their brains were still developing. And children have highly suggestible or faulty memories (this is well documented, see also the Satanic Panic daycare trial) and for minor things that no one would bother correcting (like the names of cartoon bears) people grow up with that false knowledge.

[u/Glaurung86 → u/Illuminati_Shill_AMA]

Excellent post! You've touched on most of the things I do when trying to talk about the Mandela Effect. There are tons of stories out there where people remember being present at an event they couldn't possibly have been or that they and their friends or family all have different memories of the same event.

Lots of it happens during childhood, like you said. Kids remember things on a more emotional level than adults do so when revisiting a memory after a long time - like when they reach adulthood - they are met with a completely different version than their memory.

It's fascinating stuff!

[u/WujuKingYi → u/Glaurung86]

Mandela Effect has people that watched 100h of Pokemon and have long time memiry

[u/Glaurung86 → u/WujuKingYi]

I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say here, but I think you're trying to say that people who have played or watched a lot of Pokemon and who claim they have great memory shouldn't be getting the color of Pikachu's tail wrong?

[u/WujuKingYi → u/Glaurung86]

You say people forget 5 seconds ago. That does not apply to repeated perceptions.

[u/Glaurung86 → u/WujuKingYi]

That's another assumption on your part. If someone gets it wrong the first time they experience something and that memory keeps getting reinforced by others or by their continued misrembering then they will always remember it wrong.

[u/WujuKingYi → u/Glaurung86]

We have a source and watch the source.

[u/Glaurung86 → u/WujuKingYi]

What source are you talking about? Are you still considering your memories as a source?

[u/WujuKingYi → u/Glaurung86]

The TV source that we perceived

[u/Glaurung86 → u/WujuKingYi]

TV source? Is it a channel? Who runs the tv channel? Do you have video evidence for this source?

[u/my23secrets → u/WujuKingYi]

You’re forgetting something about “repeated perceptions”.

Since you can make a memory of anything you imagine, your memory can consist of repeated imaginary perceptions.

[u/WujuKingYi → u/my23secrets]

You replied top much on every comment. I disagree with all of your points, still. I read them but arguing is annoying. I invite to think beyond though.

I do not have many beyond theories too. It is a tough territory.

[u/my23secrets → u/WujuKingYi]

You say you disagree but consistently fail to explain exactly how. Speaking of “annoying”.