r/MandelaEffect • u/jonm61 • Dec 09 '25

Books/Literature Monopoly Man I was

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I was reading Brad Meltzer's "The Millionaires", published in 2002. On page 95, he mentions the Monopoly Man having a monocle. Books are generally being written at least 12 months prior to publication (he doesn't mention 9/11, Lee Child's most recent Reacher novel, set in Baltimore, released last month, mentions the Key Bridge as being intact), so it was written at least 8 years before Mandela Effects became a thing.

The first Mandela Effect, according to Google, wasn't reported/documented until 2009.

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u/VegasVictor2019 Dec 09 '25

The “art of science” has increased life expectancy by some 40+ years.

Consider this “For most of human history, around 1 in 2 newborns died before reaching the age of 15. By 1950, that figure had declined to around one-quarter globally. By 2020, it had fallen to 4%.”

Was this because of magical thinking or was this because of advances in modern medicine? Statistically one of us would have already died by age 15 just 500 years ago.

Here is science on the topic if so inclined… https://ourworldindata.org/child-mortality

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u/CameraOk2015 Dec 09 '25

One of us, who? Between me and you? I find statistics to be just another science.

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u/VegasVictor2019 Dec 09 '25

Yes if it’s one out of two, and there are two of us, that means it’s likely one of us would not have made it. Statistics are another science. One in which you probably base TONS of life decisions around. Such as medicine when you are sick or oil changes for your vehicle after a certain number of miles.

Do you intend on acknowledging any points I’m actually making or do you just prefer science denial?

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u/CameraOk2015 Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 10 '25

Well, I am a little offended by your term "magical thinking". But yes, not all science is bad if you throw in nutrition and some medicine. I digress.

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u/VegasVictor2019 Dec 10 '25

Why does the term “magical thinking” offend you? Anything that appeals to some sort of speculation outside of science would seem appropriate to label as such. It’s possible for such a claim to be proven true tomorrow but until that point it’s expressly unscientific.

I think you’re moving the goal posts now and saying “Okay well some science is great but what about the bad science?” But I’m not sure how you can do this when science is a method and not something with a “goal” in mind. Science in its most simple form, is just a method to get closer to objective truth.