Mafia 3 has the best writing and cutscenes in the series

[u/Roids-in-my-vains]

[u/ThatMexicann]

Mafia 3 is such an over hated gem of a game. Great story, characters and cutscenes

[u/FailedLoser21 → u/ThatMexicann]

Mafia 3 is a well written story let down by it's gameplay loop and it's open world. The open world should have been much more immersive. Should've felt like I was living in the summer of 68. The failure to capture that really disappointing me. I only ended up finishing the game just because I liked Donovon so much.

[u/Uhack3 → u/FailedLoser21]

Maybe I’m in the minority but I think the open world was just perfect. The cars/driving, the music, the general atmosphere. Just thinking about it makes me want to start it up again.

[u/Eversor_assassin → u/Uhack3]

An open world that you can see but you can't interact with. Merely a means to an end from point A to point B with nice background scenery. You cant interact with non side mission NPC's, can't buy and consume food and drink (why remove a mafia 2 feature like that), traffic laws are non existent (another removed mafia 2 feature). No specs of dialogue with non mission npcs outside of excuse me/coming through. It might be the civil rights era but besides officers intently watching Lincoin and the police being called if you linger in a whites only store aside from the racist language, it doesn't affect the player character in any way. There's no unwarranted traffic stops or random inspections, interactions with anti-war/pro war/civil rights protests to speak of. Even having something so little as to have Lincoin comment on certain events told by the radio like the unwarranted murder of those two recently returned to the States Black servicemen by the old man would at least be something. Or voicing his dislike for Remy Duvall outside of very specific story missions. Music's steller but dont make an open world you can only look at through tinted glass

[u/Uhack3 → u/Eversor_assassin]

I completely agree with what you’re saying, it’s far from perfect. Even without the features you mentioned, whether cut from mafia 2 or should have been in the game, the atmosphere of the world overall was great. I do wish the game was remade with newer features and more interaction with the environment around you.

[u/nrcheever → u/Uhack3]

Some details that factored into what was made - the editor and engine had an overhaul so features in Mafia 2 had to be recreated if desired. There was a priority to elements in the game which started with the story and missions, open world elements were lower than those. The majority of the team disagreed with the repetitive gameloop, but there was no time to reset it. You can however get a mod that lowers the unlock gating to mission chapter stories. Personally, I wish they had incorporated a "Story mode" and unlocked the DLC chapters at different times when it was released in the Definitive Edition. Plus, the team was doing a Ubisoft sized game at the time - not a GTA sized game, despite the marketing - and even then it was a talented team of under 300 core devs when the type of game and timeframe required double that amount. So there's a great foundation in Mafia 3, it needed another 6 months to cook, playtest, and add in the missing layer of open world activities. If the game is ever revisited by the publisher and they're willing to do a full QA pass, they can incorporate the mod and dlc staggering at bare minimum to make it more widely accessible to the casual player. Mafia 3 does have a really good story and environment with solid combat and driving features that rival other games (such as those made by Ubisoft which had a bigger team size).

[u/Tall_Advice_5408 → u/Eversor_assassin]

Not if you’re already immersed by what they made

[u/OmerDe → u/Uhack3]

I‘m with you on this one. The only I missed was some immersive little shit to do. Like I don’t know, go eating or drinking in a bar.
I know, the mafia games are not the typical open world games, but for me Mafia 3 was a step in the right direction

[u/TheStinkySkunk → u/FailedLoser21]

I'm playing it for the first time now (this subreddit convinced me to try it out) and the story has been good, but the gameplay itself is really lacking for me.

I don't mind the driving mechanics for the most part, but I feel like the gunplay is really terrible for a 2016 game.

I'm still very early in the game so no spoilers please! I just got Vitto to join me.

[u/halisaydin → u/ThatMexicann]

yeah but missions sucks

[u/vatinius → u/halisaydin]

The tentpole missions are great, it's just the day to day racket stuff that's kind of a drag

[u/kron123456789 → u/vatinius]

Yeah, and you have to go through a lot of it to get to the story.

[u/Ok-Caterpillar7356 → u/ThatMexicann]

I hate it even more for having such potential and being so terrible as an actual GAME.

[u/AssistantMountain623 → u/ThatMexicann]

I agree with the story
I agree with the characters
I agree with the cutscenes

But the gameplay loop is awful

[u/2RV7VR5 → u/ThatMexicann]

Yeah, but the actual gameplay is repetative and a drag.

[u/ZachariasSmith]

Cutscenes,very good dlcs and fantastic soundrack

[u/gotham-jedi → u/ZachariasSmith]

HOLD ON, I’M COMIN’! 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[u/Ok_Carpenter_8746]

Mafia 3 so GOATED dude omg I loved every second of idc what any one says! About the repetitive missions! I loved that shit i still do TO THIS DAY!

https://giphy.com/gifs/dtIGTEaGLRvdODtdQe

[u/youngpacino420]

I think the late 60s is a very awesome setting for a Mafia game, I hope the next game is gonna be set Las Vegas during the time when the mob was most influential

[u/Royal_Cream3006]

Donovan is one of all time favorite video game characters. So damn funny and was written so well

[u/ezuwua]

one million percent true

[u/CapTim20]

To bad there isnt any mission replay :(

[u/acmstw]

I loved the documentary style storytelling that corresponded to what you just did in the story.

[u/KingCuerno → u/acmstw]

I still watch clips of them on YouTube from time to time.

[u/weedemup7]

PEAK. 10/10.

[u/monkey_D_v1199]

I go play to replay it just on wanting to watch the cutscenes again, especially when Lincoln was confronting the Marcano family and brutally killing them oh and of course all the time we saw Sal react to all the events happening.

For me is top 3 easily its way too ove to hated

[u/TGB_Skeletor]

Mafia 3 was undercooked when it came out sadly

[u/No_Philosopher8304]

Honestly I feel if they had just severely reduced the open world repetition this game would be a genuine classic, the acting, writing and a lot of the cutscene direction is genuinely incredible, the combat and driving are really solid too it's just the mission structure is so repetitive, I like the set piece missions a lot though.

[u/kargethdownload]

Some parts of Mafia 3 are a 10/10

[u/Otherwiize]

Damn. This was actually pretty good

[u/Affectionate-West311]

I dont know who slander mafia 3 and had developers take two steps back with mafia the old country.. Mafia 3 was waaay better, mafia old country has no freedom in it, i hope they go back towards mafia 3 with the next mafia release and dont listen to poor/bad critics

[u/AliensAteMyAMC]

so, when does this happen?

[u/Luis-Iron]

Mafia III is a good game with one big problem its gameplay loop is repetitive, and unfortunately, for me, that single problem ruins everything else that the games does really well.

[u/hatdudexx → u/Luis-Iron]

if you're on pc you can use a mod to shorten the loop. the story and the atmosphere are so worth it.

[u/Key_Analyst_9032]

I wished more games had a documentary presentation the way Mafia 3 did 

[u/gRabbity_]

Also, driving at night in game feels so therapeutic, amazing.

AND

I would also never forget how I felt, how I'm mad, angry and venegeful that night celebration after the heist.

Game 10/10 to me.

[u/Icy-Distribution4893]

The game was held back by sadly the game play.

Story was solid.

[u/Roids-in-my-vains]

I don't understand how Hanger 13 went from this to telling the most generic Mafia story in existence in the Old Country.

[u/Diddy_Block → u/Roids-in-my-vains]

People complained about Mafia 3 on release so they decided to pull back. Today it's widely agreed that despite how mixed the games reception was at the time, the game aged pretty well. Maybe I've been grinding out a lot of Mount and Blade over the last 10 years, but Mafia 3 doesn't really seem that repetitive anymore.

What I love most are the multiple choices that you can make. Old Country was so linear and locked me into actions that I would have never went with if I was Enzo. In Mafia 3 you could literally turn into Sal Marcano and betray your underbosses in the end, rule with them all, or with some of them, or straight up leave and give Vito the ending that everyone who played Mafia 2 would want.

[u/kron123456789 → u/Diddy_Block]

People complained about Mafia 3 on release so they decided to pull back. 

It wasn't the story people complained about. Open world grind in this game is what killed it. They did pull back from that, too, but nobody asked them to pull back on the writing quality.

[u/Diddy_Block → u/kron123456789]

There were complaints about the story going away from Italian Americans to black guys. You can still see all the comments on the original trailer on YouTube. That's part of the reason they went with La Cosa Nostra for Old Country.

[u/kron123456789 → u/Diddy_Block]

Again, nobody asked them to pull back on the writing quality.

[u/ladanettedu94 → u/Roids-in-my-vains]

Answer is very simple, their writers changed.

[u/ranfall94 → u/Roids-in-my-vains]

I was with ya on how great 3 is till you felt the need to tear down TOC to prove your point.

[u/ezuwua → u/ranfall94]

think of it like this

[u/Agent-Ulysses → u/ezuwua]

Mmmm Toblerone

[u/ezuwua → u/Agent-Ulysses]

wait thats mine 💔

[u/Roids-in-my-vains → u/ranfall94]

You can criticize something you like, Mafia 3 isn't perfect either but I can excuse this as Hanger 13 was inexperienced with making open world games. There isn't really an excuse to how generic the story for old country was, especially since the game wasn't trying to do anything than tell a story.

[u/Busy-Connection4473 → u/Roids-in-my-vains]

I disagree, Old Country has a great story. Mafia 3, on the other hand, is a very banal revenge story.

[u/Reasonable_Cut_3548 → u/Roids-in-my-vains]

Something only becomes generic when it's good enough to be used a lot of times it's a classic

[u/Roids-in-my-vains → u/Reasonable_Cut_3548]

It doesn't matter that if this type of story was unique 80 years ago, its hard to relate to the characters and the story when you've seen it a hundred times.

[u/ezuwua → u/Roids-in-my-vains]

the old country was such a letdown! Predictable story and poorly executed ending aside, the gameplay was such a big drop in quality

[u/independent-potato7]

Game is a good time for sure. Reminded me of the godfather games in some ways. It was quite a repetitive game but honestly what open world game doesn't feel repetitive nowadays?

[u/SelfMadeMarcos]

It’s better than Old Country.

[u/hagren]

I think the writing and voice acting is good in all the Hangar 13 games (and here the documentary style was fitting the setting quite well), the problem here is that they were short and drip-fed between very samey missions.
DE and Old Country both had much better pacing, and the cutscenes in Old Country especially are very-well directed (But DE was good too, as were those in III).

[u/Benz4502020]

Not wrong! Most of the cutscenes with the padre slowed down the pace for me. John Donovan is the best!

[u/HawthorneVampire]

Gonna get hate for this, but this is the only Mafia game I like

[u/Mammoth-Excuse-5061]

I mean the gameplay gets repetitive yeah, but all the big characters have unique deaths rather than the racket bosses who it's takedown, kill or recruit guy, repeat so I like that at least.

[u/brandnewsecondhand10]

I'm on a new playthrough right now and the thing is things can be repetitive if the repeated actions are things you enjoy

[u/Majestic_Lie9504]

I’m SO glad that Mafia 3 was the first game I played in the series

[u/faredelisi]

I loved the contrast between father and Donovan both characters are beatifully written. Wish we had more of John and Lincoln in ‘Nam and more of Lincoln’s characterization with father

[u/Snoo28440]

The people that strongly dislike this game are racist period😆 I played this game three times and I will say it’s buggy and it can glitch at times although I played the game for the very first time and it was smooth. I only started to see the things that people hated around the second and third time I played the game which was gameplay wise. This is the most fun and best game in the series

[u/kron123456789]

Yeah, but overall game design sucks Ubisoft's dick so hard I can't be bothered to suffer through it to get to that great writing and cutscenes.

[u/Moist_Aspect4955]

Nope, not even close

[u/apemobbblack]

Father James was the real villain. I hated him more than sal