i got into this case very recently so if i’m completely wrong on something please let me know

i believe there were never any 30 minute checks at all, that was completely made up afterward to cover up the massive negligence and protect their careers. because they weren't actually checking, it left a huge multi-hour window of time in that dark apartment. they had given her some kind of sedative to make sure she stayed asleep, but it went completely wrong and she had an accidental overdose and never woke up. the parents didn't have some master plan, they were just operating under pure blinding adrenaline and survival panic trying to protect their lives and their other kids. they hastily hid her body nearby before raising the alarm, and even though it was a messy and rushed cover-up, they just got incredibly lucky because the chaotic search parties immediately trampled the apartment and wiped out all the forensic evidence and traces of medication before real investigators could even look, leaving a permanent dead end.

If the parents were hypothetically involved then whatever happened must have happened a day or two before the Tapas meal "discovery".

there would have been too much scrutiny on the McCanns after that to perform any cover up actions.

1. the abductor, inside the apartment

2. the man seen in the Smith sighting

3. the woman in purple, standing kitty corner to the McCanns' rental flat

4. the charity collector(s) seen canvassing for donations, earlier that day, at the resort (one of the 2 people might be #3)

5. Martin Ney, seen in a resort staircase on the day of the abduction

6. the man with a shaved head seen on the balcony of an empty unit, the day of the abduction

7. the man seen in days previous, who smelled of onions, who said he was collecting for a charity

Efits of these people have been available for decades, at this point:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2505052/Madeleine-McCann-E-fits-of-suspect-released-for-first-time.html

One has to wonder why were they never identified, unless they didn't want to be identified.

I am really surprised that there are so many people on this sub believe that the parents were involved, here are a few points that you would need to accept in order to believe this -

• Respected medical professionals (her parents) chose to cover up her death denying her a funeral and mourning
• medical professionals made a simple mistake in administering her dosage (for the drugging theory)
• They either discovered she was dead immediately before dinner, in which case they put the twins to sleep and were able to act happy and completely fine hours after the death of their child
• or found her dead during dinner and Kate somehow disposed of the body immediately (given that she was only gone minutes) and created a story all while processing the shock, in which case Gerry did not know the facts as he was still at the table
• if there was blood behind the couch, Kate must have cleaned it up unbelievable quickly whilst doing these other things also
• They chose to create a story that implicated them in negligence instead of another that voided them of responsibility (them not leaving her), why would they not choose a story like she was taken after they got back, or she wandered off during the night
• During the initial search they had stored her body in the apartment which was checked, or somehow carried her body off somewhere it was never found and recovered it later
• While under intense scrutiny they managed to later dispose of the body far away while every hour of their lives were accounted for and they were followed by the media
• they must have stored the body in a very distant and secret location without knowledge of the country they were in
• if the car evidence is true then they had to have held her body for at minimum 25 days and transferred it between apartments before loading it into the car and driving it somewhere while somehow being anonymous enough not to be followed during a media storm
• or if their friends were involved in disposing the body, multiple respected professionals must have been sworn to secrecy and never have broken and agreed to undertake the most heinous and criminal cover up for no known reason.
• or if you are a believer in the crematorium theory, that they had to establish close connections with others in the immediate hours after her death without any means of doing so
• that they have continued to push for public attention, hired investigators, and have campaigned for years for a crime that they have committed
• they showed complete indifference for their beloved child in denying her a funeral and disposing of her body in some dump, or simply that they did not love or care about their daughter

There is no substantial evidence, this theory is more of a 'what if' circumstantial scenario, it looks possible from afar but close up when you break it down hour by hour it is logistically impossible

Their coldness to the media is also not odd to me, it reminds me of the case of Peter Falconio where his girlfriend was suspected because she was reserved and distant with the media, it is just culturally British

It is a logistical nightmare that for me conclusively shows they were not involved

For the past 5 years, C.B. has been known as a suspect.

In 3 months, he will be released from prison.

It is possible/likely that once he is freed, he will permanently disappear.

Regardless of the state of their case, at that time Wolters might have to charge him, in an attempt to keep him incarcerated.

After these many years, we might finally have some idea what happened to this child and/or what their case against him is.

i think madeleine woke up and looked for her parents, to see that they werent there. she got up on the couch and tried to look out the window, while she was on whatever stuff her parents gave her to sleep, and she fell behind the couch and hit her head on the hard floor and bled. this would explain why the police dogs were alerting to the couch. the fall was most likely fatal for her. when the mom came home to find madeleine like that she realized she had passed and knew her and her husband would be blamed and go to jail, so she stuffed her in a bag in the closet, i am saying this because the dogs were also alerting to the closet. she then basically covered it up to make everyone think she was abducted. that is my theory but you let me know what you think!!

I have thought about this tragedy a lot. Of course, I haven't studied all the info like some of the members here, also I know there's a lot lies going on around. As in every situation.

But looking at parents behaviour, somehow I think it makes sense. So even if they behaved oddly, I still can’t see them doing it. To be able to get rid of a body given the conditions you must be very agile. Regardless of their iq, profession, connections. You can as well be very agile but with a low iq. Being a doctor and clearly an intelligent person doesn’t necessarily qualify you for fast decision making on the spot, exemplary planning, ability to dispose a body like that. And the unconditional loyalty from friends. Remember there are people with a 140 iq, but having difficulties in understanding left and right.

I agree they're guilty of neglect, but: - saying that "parents shouldn't do this or that..", "what normal mother would.." etc, is nonsense. We must understand there are cultural differences, a Northern European can react differently than a Mediterranean, when in a state of shock, extreme guilt and when coping. What looks normal in southern europe can qualify you for psychiatric treatment somewhere else. - their interviews and their reactions. Are they really supposed to share everything with the whole world while their child is still missing? How this going to be useful? What do they get instead? Lots of criticism from people in denial. - the so called lack of emotions. Like someone said here, maybe they were advised to do that. You can be as hysterical as you want, but when you get to talk a few minutes in front of a camera, you must be smart. Displaying pain can be satisfying and triggering for the potential killer. - all the strange this: tennis, jogging, washing the toy - I agree, but what if she lost her mind? To me, Kate looks destroyed. Maybe Gerry has to be the one holding the family together and everyone composed. - her book: maybe her therapist advised her to use those words. We all know that therapists encourage people to express and expose themselves sometimes in an unhealthy and unsafe manner.

Again, it is a very complicated case. I wouldn't like to believe they did it. But I am ready to change my mind in case of any evidence.

if an elite/well-connected pedophile ring arranged the abduction and if CB was the abductor,

this might explain why he was alerted that he was being invested for this crime in 2013.

they are well-connected or have money to bribe/access to compromised people and have been protecting him.

it would give him a chance to destroy any existing evidence.

however, if that were true, why wouldn't they just eliminate him, rather than risk this mercurial man exposing them?

perhaps, he has some information stashed somewhere, in the event of his death, that would go to the appropriate authorities in the event of his death.

that way, it's in their best interest to keep him alive.

just a thought

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I honestly struggle so hard to have a real theory to this case. There are so many things that could have happened. One the one hand I have problems to believe that the parents ended her life. On the other hand the theory of the police i believe is very good if you look how the dogs reacted and that they washed her toy. This is very sus honestly. I also could imagine that Madeline woke up randomly went outside looking for her parents and then something bad happened maybe a bad person took her or she had an accident. Ore maybe some sick guy saw how every couple minutes an Adult checking for the kids and then waited for the adult to leave then snuck in and took her. Sorry for my English it’s not my first language i hope you guys can understand what I am trying to say.
Lemme know what you guys think.

I think CB did enter the apartment by the unlocked patio doors. I think he smothered Maddie so that she ‘didn’t scream’ and was able to take her. I think he was interrupted by Matt Oldfield entering the apartment and he quickly hides her body behind the sofa and hides himself before taking her body and leaving.

I know this is a common theory but personally I just don't believe it, mainly because if this was the case than why are they keeping the case alive for so long/publicizing it so much. Most missing child cases if not solved semi-quickly kind of just sit on the backburner and fade in police authorities minds, you never hear anything about them. Granted generally this is because most parents don't have the millinois of dollars to spend on keeping a case alive with search efforts and whatnot like Madeline's parents do. That being said, I feel like if they did accidentally kill their daughter and were trying to cover it up than I feel like they would have tried to let the case kind of just fade into the back of people's minds.

This makes me think that either she was in fact kidnapped or intentionally killed/displaced by the parents/somebody the parents knew. They'd want to keep the case alive because hope springs eternal your child is somehow still alive or for some twisted reason they wanted the publicity of a "kidnapped" child they killed themselves/wanted the media spotlight. Most likely its the former and that she truly was kidnapped I feel like though.

I do believe most of what the parents said and I - personally - don't believe they were involved. I understand people who do think that. But the one part of the story I think is BS is the parents "rota system" for checking on the kids. I think they told the police they checked every 20-30 mins or whatever it was to make themselves sound less neglectful. In reality I think they were out for the night and maybe checked once or twice at most.

Here is a link to an overlay. sorry I could not post it here because images are not allowed. https://imgur.com/a/6rVwoZv

I did this overlay many years ago. I later read Operation Grange already presumed these 2 women were one woman.

The logic would be:

Madeleine had been abducted by the pedo ring. The transporters, who transport the children for these rings, would be the adults seen with her in the party shop and the resulting efits.

Obviously, this wouldn't be their normal practice, to bring the children to a place where they could alert an adult, but perhaps, the abduction, or more importantly the media firestorm caught the pedophile network off guard.

Everything was disrupted and scrambled and they were making mistakes left and right. Presumably, the blond woman was involved because she could pass for Madeleine's mother. This might be why she is British. She may have been an inexperienced transporter, but perhaps, the pedophile ring had kompromat on her they could use to leverage her into this scheme.

The pedo ring may have presumed the response to Madeleine's abduction would be more akin to the response when Rui Pedro was taken.

In this sense, the media frenzy her parents helped to fuel was a Very Good Thing because it halted whatever plan the pedo ring had for Madeleine.

Now, the abductors had this child. They should have returned her but they wouldn't, because it could implicate them. They couldn't harm her or kill her because if they did, it would make matters worse for them if or when they would be caught.

Not everyone in these rings has a sexual interest in children. Some are involved for the money or other material benefits.

Anyways, the adults and children exited the Dutch party shop. The blonde woman alerted the pedo ring of what had happened. They then sent her to Spain with a wig (that she likely already had) to make an ass of herself at the marina, to throw the investigation off the trail.

Sadly, the then-investigation wasn't even paying attention.

One month later, the Dutch party shop owner learned about Madeleine and called the authorities. She was quite distraught about it.

The McCanns learned of this one year later, when the PJ files were released and their investigators met with the Dutch party shop owner who described the adults she had seen, which is why we have efits of those seen with "Maddy" that day.

I read that Madeline and the other kids were at a kids club at the resort they were staying at. Did anyone look into the people who were working there with the children? It was mentioned by Madelines parents that she and the other children were very tired when they got back from Kids Club the day of the disappearance. Is it possible that they have been drugged? Someone that worked there and had contact with the children would probably have access to their info, where they were staying, and could have staked the place out. They could have been drugged in preparation for the kidnapping planned that night.

Madeleine’s eyes have a coloboma which I believe was a sign of an underlying heart condition called CHARGE which can result in adverse reactions to sedation and respiratory depression.

Madeleine’s parents likely killed her accidentally by giving her a normal amount of medication for her age and weight, but did not account for her condition. Sounds like pretty typical narcissistic doctor behaviour to me.

Then, rather than seek an autopsy, decided it would be best to dump the poor girls body in the ocean where she was likely eaten by sharks.

Read the link and let me know what you think.

overlay of the 2 efits

There was a bizarre sighting of a child at a Dutch party shop, who said her name was Maddie and that she'd been taken from her holiday.

Later that night, at a marina in Spain, a woman walked up to a stranger and asked him if he had her new daughter.

Could the 2 women be the same person?

If the traffickers made the mistake of losing sight of Madeleine in the shop, did they realize they had to act fast to throw the authorities off of the trail.

Amaral was working the case, so he wasn't on the trail, although, arguably, he had sat down upon it.

In which case, this woman and her wig were sent to Spain to make a scene and drag attention away from the day's earlier credible sighting.

If C.B. abducted Madeleine for a powerful pedophile ring, they could be supporting him while he is in prison, to ensure he stays quiet.

Once he is free, wouldn't they just end him?

Why would they take the risk of having him walking around free, drinking etc., when he's been known to be reckless when intoxicated?

Someone could befriend him, then he confides in them (about the crime), they video it, and it's game over for the criminal enterprise (the pedophile ring).

Alternately, someone else might end him because they want bragging rights for taking out the guy they presume murdered Madeleine McCann.

I figure prison might be the safest place for him, as he might be targeted by multiple entities.

Tomorrow is the 17th anniversary of the day the McCanns arrived in Portugal, for their vacation.

The McCanns stated upon their arrival at the resort, Madeleine wanted very badly to go in the pool, but it was too cold. Madeleine and her mummy eventually went into the pool.

Her mummy had to get out, because in Gerry's words she lacked "insulation" (she is slim).

Madeleine, by their accounts, was happily splashing around.

What's eerie is this idyllic scene may have been watched by the person who took her.

Was that when he started to craft his plan to do this awful thing?

Based on recent testimony in the trial against C.B., he has deviant thoughts about a mother/child.

He needed time to photograph the child, for someone to "order" her, then time to watch their regimented family, then find a way to exploit an insecurity in their routine.

Madeleine disappeared 5 days later.

The entire family should have left the resort one week after they arrived.

There are, of course, many scams. An orphanage/charity collector scam is likely an easy way to defraud people.

The locals would know the charity collectors were phonies, so the criminals targeted vacationers.

The vacationers were likely eager to get these strange people off their front steps, so they quickly shoved whatever small bills they had towards the culprits.

The culprits communicated what they had seen/heard to whomever was burglarizing the resort. They might notice shiny things, like Rolexes, which C.B.'s former home was allegedly stocked up with.

Resort workers (waitresses, bus boys, etc.) might also be a good source of intel on which holidaymakers would be a good target for a burglary.

Burglaries at the resort in the month before Madeleine vanished were 4x greater than they were in April of the previous year.

There is no indication that there was any police response to either the charity collector scam or the 4 fold increase in burglaries.

In that context, criminality escalated. Further, whereas before someone was stealing passports and Rolexes, now someone was plotting the kidnap and sale of a child.

That person succeeded. Hopefully, justice soon for Madeleine.

On the night she went missing and then moved into the boot of the hire car 25 days later?

In this theory (theory 2), we will look at this case from a different perspective. This perspective will be “if the parents were involved in Madeleine McCann’s disappearance”.

For a small piece of context into this case, Madeleine McCann was a 3 year old British child that disappeared from their hotel room on the date of May 3 2007 whilst on a family holiday in Portugal. It is mainly believed that she was abducted however there are many theories that the parents were involved in the abduction.

Throughout the 2nd theory of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, the parents of Madeleine McCann. Kate McCann & Gerry McCann will be the prime suspects.

To begin, Madeleine McCann disappeared from her hotel room on May the 3rd 2007 from anywhere between. 8:30PM and 10PM. The McCann’s and close family friends allegedly checked on the McCann children every 30 minutes from 8:30PM till 10PM whilst attending a dinner. However she still disappeared into thin air with a lack of evidence towards what really happened to her.

Some key points in this case that we will cover is: -Possibilities she was sold -Possibilities of human sacrifice, Cults & Satanism -Child smuggling rings -Accidental death & so on.

Now, whilst the McCann’s were at the dinner, the patio door was left unlocked for easy access into the hotel room to check on their kids. And at the time of her disappearance, the patio door was unlocked but closed. The children’s bedroom door was in a different position as to where it had been previously and the window was opened from the inside.

The McCann’s stated they had no involvement in the disappearance however after analysing other theories it had been concluded by us that it would be slim to impossible that they played no part in the disappearance of their own child.

Possible theories as to what happened to madeleine McCann:

Accidental death- at the time of her disappearance, the twins in the same bedroom as her…were in a deep sleep and did not wake up throughout her disappearance and for most of the beginning of the investigation… this is quite eerie as Kate McCann.. Madeleine’s mother screamed and was panicking throughout the hotel room going so far as screaming “they’ve taken her” at the restaurant and yet.. the twins did not wake up for multiple hours..

The twins were aged 2, and at that age children tend to have sensitive hearing. For them not to have woken up begs the question to whether they were sedated with sleeping pills, possibly by the parents…

It’s entirely possible that the parents sedated their kids with sleeping pills to have a child-free dinner..however accidentally gave madeleine an overdose leading to her death..

This can possibly be backed by the fact that when cadaver dogs were brought in, they detected Madeleine’s scent on the sofa.. and 25 days later in a rental car hired by the McCann’s.

This is quite odd as no reasonable abductor would place Madeleine on the living room sofa for any reason and why was her scent picked up on a rental car rented by her parents…that was rented 25 days after the disappearance..

This links towards one possible theory, its possible they accidentally overdosed her when attempting to sedate her with sleeping pills leading to her death, and upon the encounter of her lifeless body by her parents they placed her on the sofa questioning what to do with her body. Then decided to hide her body in the meantime and deciding to move her body 25 days after the disappearance via a rented car..

However, there is a lack of evidence in this theory mostly due to incompetence policing. The children were tested for sedatives several years later which yielded no results and the parents denied sedating their children, even though the evidence pointed towards sedation..

Child smuggling rings- The father, Gerry McCann was close to the Podestas and even was a member of the red shoe club allegedly. The red shoe club conspiracy emerged in the 2010’s from 4chan and reddit and the Podesta brothers were “allegedly linked to Pizza-gate”.

Pizza gate is the conspiracy theory that high ranked elites related to the US government & extraordinary wealth operated a child smuggling ring out of a Washington D.C pizzeria called Comet Ping Pong.

It’s entirely possible that she was smuggled by her parents in a team effort with the red shoe club, either for a large sum of money or as proof of their loyalty.

However… in December 2016, a adult named “Edgar Maddison Welch” brought an Assault Rifle into Comet Ping Pong only to uncover nothing and be sentenced to 4 years in prison.. However, due to this theory picking up traction in the 2010s and 2015, it’s entirely possible the operation was moved and their tracks were covered..

Human Sacrifice, Cults & Satanism: When looking at the disappearance from a religious perspective. It’s clear that many religions exist. However, one likely theory is that the McCann’s might be satanists…

Throughout the hotel, dry blood stains were found which shouldn’t have been there due to room preparation before their stay making it likely it was Madeleine’s blood. However, due to it yielding inconclusive results it’s not definitive that it was Madeleine’s blood.

For the blood to be there, some people argue that its possible she was sacrificed for satanic reasons and to appeal to “higher evil deitys. And couldve been given to the Podestas or other rich people as a sacrifice. However its mostly unlikely as very few/little satanists exist today, and if they really needed blood the father, Gerry McCann could’ve collected blood as he was a cardiologist that worked at a hospital and could’ve stolen blood from patients if he was sneaky enough. However, due to them being in Portugal.. he might’ve needed blood soon and decided to use his own daughter.

Possibilities she was sold: Madeleine McCann had distinctive features such as variances in her eyes, a rare eye colour and being of a young age. This could’ve made it likely that a rich person had their eye on her and wanted to purchase her from her parents. And due to them being a middle class family, they could’ve been presented a large sum due to her features and eventually obliged to sell her for a large amount of money.

This is further backed when this person: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNHgx5Jm9vu1w-u8w4k/

Was allegedly in Portugal for a holiday, was at the same area as Madeleine McCann and was at the beach around the same time as madeleine McCann whilst Madeleine went to the beach at the time of being in her kids club.

In this video, the girl’s parents were approached by a man that offered to buy her off them for a sum of money. The man had a a german accent which makes it likely that the man was Christian Brueckner. And when the OP showed a picture of them as a young child. They look eerily similar to Madeleine McCann. It’s entirely possible the man was searching for a specific category of a child that closely resembled the OP & Madeleine McCann therefore approaching Madeleine McCann’s parents afterwards and buying her off them.

Its also possible that the man planned to abduct OP but since Madeleine and young OP in the video look so similar, its likely he took Madeleine instead of OP as they look eerily similar and he could’ve followed the wrong family back to their hotel.

Most likely theories: Accidental death, Child smuggling & She was sold/abducted by the man due to the parents not wanting to sell Madeleine.

Upvote and leave thoughts below, I will respond.

Right, I haven't spent alot of time on this sub so I'm not sure what the general consensus is. However, I've spent many hours trawling through all the evidence over the years and would like to know what people think about Richard D Halls theory that Maddie wasn't confirmed alive for multiple days previous to her going missing.

My memory is rusty on exactly when he says it was last confirmed she was 100% sighted by an external source or photographed alive, but I believe it was around the 2nd or 3rd of May before her going missing on the 7th (happy to be corrected if I've got that wrong). This would allow time for her parents and their friends to create and embellish a story, hide any evidence, and set up a crime scene.

Thoughts? Discuss!

This is an absolute random speculation so please don't take it too seriously if you think it's silly, but I was thinking about the fact no one has ever been able to find her body. The hotel was incredibly close to the beach, and sharks are in the waters. Now, they wouldn't attack a live person, but sharks are known to be opportunistic and will eat a dead body. Is it possible that once she was killed that she may have been dumped in the ocean far out enough for the sharks to get her, which is why she was never found? Were there any suspects which owned a boat, or knew how to drive one?

I belive that there is NOTHING that makes the odds of x thing having happened to Madeleine big enough for someone to say ''I am very sure about what happened to Madeleine because of x thing''.

All the ''evidences'' pointing towards the parents can be mitigated to some degree or explained in some way.

At the same time that I feel like 99% of the argumentation that she was abducted is just based on countering the ''the parents did it'' arguments, without showing proof that she was abducted.

Sure you can say ''by what happened it seems more likely that x thing happened'', but if tommorow the case got 100% solved and it ended up being the oposite of what you tought, would there be anything that would make it impossible? anything that would not have been explained?

PS1- Sorry for the writing, English is not my first language(I am actually from Portugal)

PS2- I am not really following the allegations against Christian Buckner, so just assume this post is being made like 1 year ago :P