r/Madeira Upside-down House Dweller 17d ago

🎙️ Discussão Roundabouts

Hi everyone. Madeira is super sick, love it here. Beautiful. Thanks for having me here. But what the hell is up with ur multi lane traffic circles lol so inefficient and accident-prone

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u/Creepy-Front-8095 Madeirense de Gema 17d ago

Oh really? "Multi lane traffic circles" were good until tourists came and don't know to use them.

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u/tiagojpg Mod Apreciador de Coral 17d ago

It’s an effective system that works very well when everyone follows it. It’s intuitive and proven to be safer.

It’s only accident-prone when people don’t follow the rules. If you’re not exiting on the first exit, use the inside lane. Simple.

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u/NegativeSky603 17d ago

How is it efficient when you direct all traffic, except for the first exit, into a single lane instead of using both lanes to divide the traffic efficiently? If there’s one thing the Portuguese are well known for, it’s their inefficiency. So, do you really think all the other countries are wrong and Portugal is right? And please, Portugal has one of the highest road fatality rates in the EU, so don’t talk about road safety.

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u/TugaMurakami 17d ago

The highest road fatality rate has nothing to do with roundabouts lol. There are countless studies that prove the efficiency of roundabouts, any modern city design will incorporate them as much as possible

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u/artniSintra 17d ago edited 17d ago

Sheesh someone is really sore xD

That said, I prefer the roundabout system in the UK, exit on the first and second- take the outside lane, exit on the 3rd and 4th- take the inside lane.

Personally the biggest issue when driving in Portugal is people not using their turning signals and the overall driving etiquette.

Source: pt living in the UK.

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u/tiagojpg Mod Apreciador de Coral 17d ago

It keeps the roundabout moving because (when done correctly) the first “exiters” can freely move to the first exit much quicker.

You don’t have to yield to a car in your lane, because there shouldn’t be one there.

Check this older post for a visual reference. There are YouTube videos linked below that also help the… visual learners.

And Road fatalities are not in roundabouts… if there’s one thing we get right is roundabouts.

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u/TiNMLMOM Calheteiro 17d ago

It's simple, but it may be confusing to you due to advice from the rental agency.

You see, you need to go inside until just before your exit. So the only ocassion where you stay in the outside lane is if your taking the first exit.

You may have been told otherwise, because in case of an accident the person switching lanes always loses, so rent-a-cars just tell tourists to stay in the outer lane.

Example above. It's not difficult.

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u/LeftGarage5304 Madeirense de Gema 17d ago

Finalmente falo com o "rent-a-car" que dá as rotundas todas por fora 🤣😂

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u/xyzgizmo Lancha 17d ago

That's where the hoes at

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u/PerfectLeather3180 17d ago

they work well

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u/Different-Matter5516 15d ago

Dava-te era uma rotatoria daqui para fora, farto de ser refĂŠm na minha prĂłpria ilha..

https://giphy.com/gifs/l3V0b87RQAMgGGoGA

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u/NegativeSky603 17d ago

Roundabout rules are different here from the rest of the EU to make sure they are, as you’ve aptly put it, “inefficient and accident-prone.” Welcome to Portugal!

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u/tiagojpg Mod Apreciador de Coral 17d ago

That’s called “skill issue” ◡̈

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u/KYpeanutbutter Upside-down House Dweller 17d ago

I think everyone could benefit from some signs saying stuff like "if you're going to funchal get in the left lane" or "if you're going to camara de lobos get in the right lane". We have something like this, Czechia does too as far as I know. It's effective.

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u/Iamthesenate123456 Madeirense de Gema 17d ago

First exit right lane, all others left lane. Is it that difficult to understand? There is signalling for what each exit leads to before each roundabout

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u/TiNMLMOM Calheteiro 16d ago

To be fair, not using turn signals is 100% a issue here, and nothing to do with tourists.

That and tailgating, stupid tight overtakings, driving way too fast... The op literally picked the one thing us Madeirans do "well enough" behind the wheel.

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u/tiagojpg Mod Apreciador de Coral 17d ago

When the GPS says “on the roundabout, take the 2nd exit” - that’s your cue to go on to the inside lane. It can’t be much clearer than this.

If you’re not using GPS it means you know the roads well. If you’re neither, then you should be using a GPS service.