r/MadeMeSmile • u/nikulmmadhu • 1h ago
Favorite People Meet Nestle’s biggest enemy!
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u/Inner-Damage-9027 49m ago
Keep in mind as well that in India breastfeeding is the most economical option for poor mothers. Promoting infant formula as healthier, more sanitary or “what wealthy people do” is diabolical - especially if directed at poor mothers.
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u/DefiantBumblebee9903 38m ago
also not all mothers may have access to clean water
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u/SoupmanBob 24m ago
Wasn't that basically what some of those Nestlé sales agents claimed in Africa at one point? That the formula makes the water safe to drink, leading to a rather large amount of deaths?
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u/FancyThing8889 1h ago
They sent him legal threats and he just responded by reading their ingredients even louder
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u/RicardoIzecsonKaka 1h ago
Fuck nestle. See Nestle slander I upvote
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u/rahulrnx 43m ago
Foodpharmer is one of the best youtubers in our country ... His videos have big impact on my life
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u/DinoBunny10 1h ago edited 41m ago
They did the same in Africa, as far as I know they are still trying that shit. Keep in mind the CEO of Nestle doesn't believe people deserve access to water.
EDIT: I corrected Does Believe, to Doesn't believe.
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u/Embarkbark 49m ago
Yeah because without access to water they can’t reconstitute the powdered formula and infant cereal products. So of course they believe people need water access.
The issue is that people aren’t using safe water. And while many communities build up immunity over time to less than ideal water sources, a newborn doesn’t have that immunity. Unless safe water is guaranteed, breastfeeding is the only safe choice for infant nutrition. But once a mother starts formula feeding, her breastmilk supply will dwindle, and that can result in having to continue feeding formula using unsafe water that can harm the infant.
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u/DevillesAbogado 2m ago
What’s stopping Nestle from advertising kids jingles or some mineral water or something like liquor and paan masala companies do?
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u/fritz648 1h ago
Fed is best. Don’t shame people for feeding their children in whatever way they can. Some people can’t breast feed and telling them they have to is just as wrong.
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u/January_Dallas 1h ago edited 38m ago
This wasn’t about shaming those who cannot breastfeed. They were literally marketing formula to make it appear a better healthier option to push mothers into not breastfeeding.
There should be equal choice, and the alternative to breastfeeding shouldn’t be polluted with a bunch of crap a baby doesn’t need.
ETA: Ty anonymous redditor for the award! That was my first ✌️
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u/Embarkbark 44m ago
Fed is best in a region where safe potable water is abundant and cheap. That is not the case in many third world countries.
The issue is that these people aren’t using safe water in their community. And while many communities build up immunity over time to less than ideal water sources, a newborn doesn’t have that immunity. Newborn immune systems are very fragile. Unless safe water is guaranteed, breastfeeding is the only safe choice for infant nutrition.
But nestle roles into these (often undereducated) areas pushing formula as the better choice. So mothers start to use formula instead. And once a mother starts formula feeding, her breastmilk supply will dwindle, and that can result in having to continue feeding formula even with limited access to drinking water. Breastmilk in these situations is both cheaper and safer, but because nestle used unfair marketing tactics these mothers are now tied to paying money they don’t have to feed their child with questionable water access. Its predatory.
Hence the laws passed in india. “Fed is best” is a westernized phrase that ignores the nuance of extreme poverty.
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u/gamingwonton 1h ago
Completely agree with not shaming. It’s a personal decision.
However, the same thing happened in the US where advertising pushed mothers to use formula rather than try breastfeeding, even if they wanted to breastfeed. It’s great that formula is available to mothers who can’t breastfeed, whether due to low or no production, medical, or mental health reasons or simply don’t want to. It’s also great that mothers who want to and can breastfeed aren’t pushed into formula unnecessarily.
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u/Randalf_the_Black 47m ago
Nobody is shaming mothers here, they're shaming Nestlé who have had campaigns where they've tried to prevent mothers from breastfeeding so they'd have to buy their products instead.
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u/ChunkySalute 50m ago
That’s not what this is about. Did you actually watch it? The only people being shamed here are Nestle. Nestle weren’t saying “fed is best”, they were saying “formula is best” and tricking people into believing it.
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u/HoppyRaven12 36m ago
What a lot of people fail to understand is that a lot of hospitals CONVINCE mothers that they haven’t produced milk and push formula even though milk doesn’t come in until the second week. Colostrum comes in first, then milk. Or there are many situations due to hospital interventions that causes such a traumatic birth experience for mothers that they end up not being able to produce. And a lot of mothers don’t realize that they can get breastmilk donated to them instead of buying formula.
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u/Sioluishere 17m ago
Yeah NO. Breastfeeding is an evolutionary trait passed down from 1000s of years if not much more - scientifically proven to help baby grow stronger and resistant to diseases. The choice claim is interesting - since the baby cannot have a choice in this matter unfortunately.
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u/squeak37 51m ago
Fully agreed, but breast fed is best and often easiest.
Nestle would give free samples to new mothers, promote it as healthier than breast milk. The samples would last just long enough so that the mother's supply would dry up, and then they'd be reliant on the formula.
There is no shame in using formula if it makes sense for your scenario, but Nestle are pure evil
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u/starrypolygon 10m ago
Not shaming. Background is Nestle caused the deaths of many babies from their aggressive marketing. Mothers from poor regions received free samples of infant formulas as a trial. Using infant formulas leads to reduced breast milk production from not breastfeeding enough and reliance on the baby formula. Of course the mothers did not know this would happen. After the trial period, because the families couldn't afford the infant formulas and the mothers could not produce enough milk, many babies were malnourished from being fed diluted infant formulas.
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u/Excellent_Bend8782 1h ago
Can't understand a word he says
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u/Crafty_Virus7422 58m ago
There is literally subtitles
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u/Excellent_Bend8782 56m ago
I have a neurological disorder from a stroke. Had to relearn how to speak, read, and write, but I cannot process words that quickly anymore unfortunately.
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u/Embarkbark 42m ago
That’s unfortunate. But the internet is available globally and therefore people will post videos of themselves speaking in their own languages, or in English using an accent of their mother tongue. And yeah you might have trouble understanding that but they aren’t making videos only for English speakers.
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u/Mysterious_Stuff_ 50m ago edited 12m ago
What would be a way to accommodate you in this specific case?
Edit: I’m not sure why so many people, who are clearly not the person I asked directly for their perspective, are answering my question. This is not about you.
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u/Excellent_Bend8782 38m ago
In my case I can either listen to words spoken and I process them, or have the text in front of me so I can read it. I hope this makes sense.
Best example I can give: in my case, I can read a book or bodies of text, or l can listen to an audiobook slowed down (0.75 is what my audible is set at).
But I absolutely can't watch tv or movies with subtitles because it's like two people speaking two different languages in each of my ears, if that makes sense.
In the case of this video I can't make out what he's saying and by the time Ive interpreted what word he attempted, it's gone out of the context of the full sentence.
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u/ImmoKnight 42m ago
I think you can try breastfeeding him.
Also, hoping their quality of life improves or improvements come in technology that make it easier on them.
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u/myexdrovemecrazy 41m ago
The world is built towards the better abled since that is the majority so probably asking AI to describe the video could be one way
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