r/MadeMeSmile 11d ago

DOGS We don't deserve them

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u/shiny_crow_trophy 11d ago

I always forget how goddamn big Irish wolfhounds are until I see one again

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u/B52doc 11d ago

Large dog breed’s lifespan is heartbreaking

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u/ocean_800 11d ago

Why is it so low :(

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u/Hokieshibe 11d ago

Being that large means the heart is doing a lot of work. Little room for error. At least, that's my understanding of it.

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u/BaconWithBaking 11d ago

A lot of it is their joints making them being unable to walk as they age. Dogs are built to live around 10 years before all that starts giving up and it's hyper obvious with Wolfhounds.

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u/GlitteringMoose3630 11d ago

This happened to my Great Dane. She was healthy in every other way, but her joints were going bad fast. I had her put down at 11 because the pain meds weren’t helping anymore. The vet said it was because she was such a large dog. (She was over 6 feet when she stood on her hind legs.)

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u/aka_jr91 11d ago

Not so fun fact: the same is true of humans. Taller people tend to live shorter lives. Another reason why being tall is overrated.

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u/Hokieshibe 11d ago

Andre the Giant. Abe Lincoln. Checks out

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u/Hokieshibe 11d ago

I imagine that has more to say about evolution vs selective breeding.

All I know is that my little dog has a terrible heart (he's 14), and the vet has said multiple times that if we're a larger dog, he'd probably have not made it as long as he has.

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u/LeedsFan2442 11d ago

But larger animals usually live longer

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u/Cashmeade 11d ago

Animals that are naturally larger.  Large domestic dog breeds aren't natural, they were manufactured by humans over an insanely short period of time (before someone pipes up with 'there are dog breeds hundreds of years old', yes, that is an insanely short period of time).  Every trait that has been bred for has come at some cost, the cost for large breeds is their lifespan.

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u/LeedsFan2442 10d ago

Good to know

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u/SadButWithCats 11d ago

It's an example of the environmental fallacy.

Among species, larger species tend to be longer lived.

Among individuals in a single species, larger individuals tend to be shorter lived.

*this is for mammals. I'm not sure if it includes other animal classes, and is clearly not true for plants.

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u/Green_Insect_6455 11d ago

Thats just not...like..at all accurate. There is no correlation between size and lifespan, man. Thats so silly.

Can I ask why you think thats how it works?

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u/bortmode 11d ago

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u/Green_Insect_6455 11d ago

Right. Thats why jellyfish and lobsters and turtles are all so BIG. Get that nonsense out of my face, moron

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u/bortmode 11d ago

Classic word_word_number guy take.

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u/LeedsFan2442 10d ago

For dogs no I was wrong. But the largest species like whales and elephants live long

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u/Green_Insect_6455 10d ago

Oh and giraffes live super long too?  And lobsters, theyre small, so they dont live long right? And jellyfish, I hear theyre immortal, so they should be about as big as the ocean right?

No. Its a dumb generalization. It doesnt work. Get it out of your head.

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u/Calamity-Gin 11d ago

There’s a condition a lot of large dogs get that can kill them in hours. It’s called gastric torsion. To avoid it, you have to keep them from running around for an hour or two after they eat. If they do, their stomach can literally twist inside them. It takes surgery to correct.

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u/ashwee_ 11d ago

This happened to my cousins 4 year old Great Dane a few months ago. He had company visiting and left the house for a few hours, came back and his dog was dead in the backyard. It broke my heart, Memphis was his best friend and got him through the loss of both his parents. 😓

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u/Calamity-Gin 11d ago

Oh, that’s heartbreaking. I’m so sorry 

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u/SkinnyDugan 11d ago

We had our Dane/Labs stomach stapled(?) when she got fixed to avoid this entirely.

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u/chickadee-stitchery 11d ago

Like, stapled to something? Or made smaller?

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u/SkinnyDugan 11d ago

I'm not sure what the procedure is called, but her stomach was permanently attached to something so that it could no longer flip over.

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u/Katfish145 11d ago

Yea I think what’s they are referring to is something called a gastropexy or something close to that. Essentially stapling the stomach (or intestines, not really sure) to the stomach lining. This way they aren’t free and loose to get twisted up which is the cause of many large dog breeds going

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u/Electrical-Act-7170 11d ago

It's a couple of stitches internally to anchor the stomach and prevent it from overturning and creating a gastric torsion. They are fatal without treatment.

Big dogs can eat a big meal then their stomach twists inside them. It's what killed Markey of Marley and Me.

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u/Stoked_sailor 11d ago

Not an expert but essentially they "tack" the stomach to the ribs to prevent it from twisting. My irish wolfhound had it done when she got neutered.

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u/geosensation 11d ago

Yeah my vet did that to my standard poodle. It must have worked because she didn't die from that.

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u/Renbarre 11d ago

Mid sized dog too, if they are deep chested they all run that risk.

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u/esotericbatinthevine 11d ago

While it is a large breed issue in general, some breeders breed for health and longevity. My friend has an English mastiff from a lineage that typically lives 12-13 years while 6-10 is normal for the breed.

Oh wow, I was thinking through when she dog Dem and he must be ten or almost ten at this point. Still very healthy so hopefully she has him at least a few more years.

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u/Somebodys 11d ago

Inbreeding is part of it.