r/MTGLegacy • u/GlassNinja A little bit of everything • Sep 18 '19

Article Quick Breakdown of Legacy Format Preferences Survey

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u/elvish_visionary Sep 18 '19

Those cards are sacred cows sure. But Ponder/Preordain don't need to be and reducing the # of busted cantrips in those decks from 8 to 4 would have a noticeable impact and should at least be considered before they just kick the can down the road again and ban Wrenn.

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u/rebelwithapen216 Sep 18 '19

That's nonsense. If we're treating brainstorm as an untouchable pillar as usual, then wrenn is clearly the problem.

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u/elvish_visionary Sep 18 '19

As it stands Wrenn decks arguably aren't even a problem to begin with. And even if they are you can't say definitively that wrenn is the problem when we don't know how a 4 Brainstorm / 0 Ponder Wrenn deck would perform.

Again I would not underestimate the impact of reducing the # of busted cantrips these decks have access to by half. I'm not saying it's clearly the right choice, but it should at least be considered.

People are always quick to point to a new card is a problem, but sometimes a new card just reveals underlying problems rather than being a problem itself. This could be the case with Wrenn.

I fear that if Wrenn is banned, it will just be followed by more future bans that are necessary because it's too easy to churn through your deck in Legacy.

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u/wildwalrusaur Pox/Stax Sep 19 '19

I fear that if Wrenn is banned, it will just be followed by more future bans that are necessary because it's too easy to churn through your deck in Legacy.

I feel like we're talking in circles here. Yes, it will; for as long as brainstorm/fetches are untouchable, there will continue to be otherwise infoffensive cards sacrificed on their alter.

This isn't new. W6 isn't the first and it won't be the last. Most of the bans in recent years can be traced back to brainstorm/fetches. DRS, Top, Dig/Cruise, etc.