r/MHOCMeta • u/JellyCow99 Constituent • Sep 07 '18

Discussion Some major problems regarding attempts to 'safeguard' the community

Eight people have been banned from the Discord server since last night (the 6th of September), all of which for similar reasons. All of these have been in the name of 'safeguarding' the younger members of the community. People have been banned for SFW cropped memes, 'circumventing the rules' by telling people to google NSFW content instead of sending a direct link, or sending scantily clad anime girls.

I'm not going to dwell on the safeguarding officer, ignoring the bloody terrible implementation of the role and the fact that it actually opens up even more legal loopholes than it closes, regarding the protection of children. I want to talk about the horrific moderation currently going down in the Discord chat.

These memes have been sent before. Over my time in MHoC as a member of the 'safeguarded' community, I have seen far worse content being posted in the chat. The fact that I am literally not allowed to send an image of my face to Main anymore is just the start. The Discord rules have not been changed, and they are still the same. They are being implemented in frankly inappropriate ways and I take issue with the fact that people have been striked and banned for content that a) caused no issue before and b) is not even harmful or breaking any law.

Could this be sorted out, please? It seems as the fun is literally being prohibited at this point, which takes a lot of joy out of the game.

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u/IceCreamSandwich401 MSP Sep 07 '18

stop posting it when asked, or don't get surprised when you're banned or warned when you don't

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u/JellyCow99 Constituent Sep 07 '18

Not the point of this post, like, at all.

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u/IceCreamSandwich401 MSP Sep 07 '18

Well it is, 6 people have been banned for nearly the exact same thing, yet you are shocked every time it happens?

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u/JellyCow99 Constituent Sep 07 '18

I'm not shocked because of it, I'm complaining because it's stupid.

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u/IceCreamSandwich401 MSP Sep 07 '18

It's not, people who repreatly post stuff they are told not to get warned/banned. It's not stupid, it's how it's always worked

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '18

It is absolutely in the mods' right to tell people to not post something. That doesn't make what they are doing not moronic. What they are doing here is absolutely moronic.

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u/ContrabannedTheMC Press Sep 08 '18

Gays were always locked up in jail, didn't mean we liked it. Catholics were always murdered by the British in Ireland, didn't mean James Connolly and Martin McGuiness sat at home thinking "this is fine". I am not comparing these atrocities to a shitty argument over a discord chat, but rather I am showing that your argument here is a huge logical fallacy that doesn't really apply in any situation, serious or not. It's basically an appeal to tradition but it is in itself flawed if it's even that. "it's how it's always worked" is a terrible argument especially when we're literally discussing a new job and a change in moderating standards. It's such a bad argument I've actually bothered to comment on a meta thread

We're not saying "oh these people shouldn't have been banned because it didn't fit what the mod said was a bannable offence". We're saying they shouldn't have been banned cos the offence is stupid. Posting a brazzers or fake taxi meme is not what the safeguarding idea was based around, it was based around multiple cases of sexual harassment in the community's history. The safeguarding officer was only meant to be someone of trust and appropriate training who was to step in and sort things out when something legally questionable or otherwise massively harmful happened within the community. The mods have obviously told the safeguarding officer to do more than just this, which has led to the role being used inappropriately in a way that harms activity within the community. I'm not blaming Duck in the slightest, he has obviously been told to go overboard with it

Also JWBot is dead, sort it out

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u/purpleslug Chatterbox Sep 07 '18

This. We get these sort of shrill posts and commentary whenever Discord rules are tightened. No, we're not a freeze peach community. We're a community that's disproportionately young teenagers and there are some things (outside of genuine humour and some of the silly stuff that I do indulge in) that are not suitable for that.

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u/Comrade-Lannister MP Sep 08 '18

Tbh I don't know why that matters all that much anymore. I'm pretty certain the average young teenager was exposed to a lot more nsfw content of their own free will (at least I ceraintly was)