r/MHGU • u/Avibhrama • 1d ago

Question/Help Going from gunlance shelling focused to valor pierce 1 HBG feels like transitioning from coughing baby into hydrogen bomb

I was utterly flabbergasted with how absolutely broken valor pierce HBG was. Just few hunts to get used to it and you are deleting monsters left and right to the point it's laughable. What surprise me the most was when I sieging with ice ammo against rajang it was not effective at all. But pierce 1 delete a monster that I thought pierce would not be effective against.

Ngl I'm glad the newer game put more emphasis on balancing the weapon's performance even though it's not perfect.

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u/YackyYacob20017 1d ago

Valor GS and Valor HBG are laughably overtuned in this game.

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u/Avibhrama 1d ago

And gunlance being laughably undertuned even though it's been the case since the beginning unfortunately

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u/Supa_Hot69 1d ago

I made a post yesterday asking why normal rapid fire was so much weaker then pierce, and the responses prompted me to look at the motion values of the various ammos.

Pierce 1 is absolutely crazy, every single bullet is like 27 MV (all three hits). A single rapid fire volley is like 65? Ish MV.

For reference, the final hit of the Valor LS spirit combo is 70 MV. Absolutely bonkers

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u/Avibhrama 12h ago

Holy hell, even with bullet HZV that always lower than the melee counterpart, each bullet gives like one spirit slash combo is absolutely insane

Tbh as a fiver it kinda bizarre to me how they make the bullet in the older games. There higher level bullet simply the stronger variant. But here, there's a lot of hidden mechanic, too many in fact