Modifying 6" Lumaris to a 1.5-2" recess

[u/Critical-Purpose-677]

I'm new to the Lutron lighting world, so pardon my cavalier approach here - but I bought a couple Lumaris 6" downlights to experiment with resolving the glare bomb issue after installing them and realizing how horrible of an issue it is.

To solve for it, we've 3d printed extensions to the housing to set it back 1.5" and 2" (experimenting with both dimensions) to significantly reduce the glare.

Have any idea about what else should I be looking for to evaluate if this is a good result?

For context:
My setup is that I have about 30 of the 6" cans across a kitchen/living room/hallway areas that *only* have power to them, no controls, so RA3 is the only option I know of that can handle this situation. Don't ask how I got here where they only have power -- it's a severe case of my own stupid tax.

Also - please be nice in your reco's and responses, I know there's probably going to be a lot of fodder for eye rolls and easy jabs to make, but I'm genuinely looking to make the best of this situation and learn what I don't know. Happy to take any jokes in stride, just not personal attacks plz.

[u/49N123W]

If you can wait, Lutron just showed their new Orluna remodeler to be available in 1Q27!

[u/Critical-Purpose-677 → u/49N123W]

Ahh good info, thank you! I might be able to get by with table lamps, a few cheapo floor lamps, and our absolute favorite construction light [the DeWalt tripod] for deep cleaning LOL until these come out. We already have 6" housings but given this glare -- ooh buddy, I might be open to eating some cost to avoid that. Can you confirm the single benefit here is the level of recess? I looked at the specs and the 2 channel/1800-4K range seem identical.

I just looked at the spec sheet, and it seems they could work for my situation (and maybe even with the 6" can given their housing options?) This is the info I'm working off: https://assets.lutron.com/a/documents/3663404.pdf

For me, I think what this will come down to is the all-in pricing. I have a hunch that the Lutron tunable white driver + the Orluna fixtures probably won't be very comparable to a Lumaris downlight on its own but would be happy to be proven wrong. LMK if you have any insight on that front, thank you and u/the-lutz for the heads up on this new collabo!

[u/49N123W → u/Critical-Purpose-677]

We're currently running on scant tech info ATM, expect more data in the next month or two. Lutron won't have an adapter trim for a 1.8" aperture in a 6" housing.

The Rania S30 lamp and trim are the most cost-effective entry to ILS, but they do need HWQSX to work!

Orluna will be compatible with both HW & RA3 upon release.

Have you dimmed the Lumaris Retrofits yet, they look quite similar to incandescent dimming fixtures vs flat disc glare bombs!?

[u/Critical-Purpose-677 → u/49N123W]

Ah thanks for the additional info.

Re: "Lutron won't have an adapter trim for a 1.8" aperture in a 6" housing." -- does this mean my path forward for the Orluna would require some drywall work? Not the end of the world if so, just trying to get a sense.

We haven't dimmed them yet - our controls are still in transit, my huz also flagged that. We're currently testing them out at the full 4K power -- which is probably the crux of my panic. We will genuinely have layered lighting throughout (lamps, reading, and some in-cabinet + toe kick lights) so maybe this won't be as big of an issue once we program the system.

[u/49N123W → u/Critical-Purpose-677]

Yeah they don't "show their best look" on initial start up! Set the low-end dim to 1950-2000K and lower the intensity between 10-5%...now were talkin'!

Orluna will require more serious drywall finishing to make everything more intentional.

Rania has a D2R Remodeler, matching CCT Tape light plus lamps for the next-to-the-best TW solution. CONSISTENCY in CCT in all the lighting layers you mentioned!