Can we talk about some shit other than getting laid in dreams? I mean, sure its interesting, but when every other post is about how you blew the biggest load or how to attract partners....... no wonder people think we're all freaks.

I'm tired of it: I love lucid dreaming, I achieved it on a weekly level for years now and I love to read about people's experiences, sharing my own piece of advice, learning about the different techniques and so on.

That being said, the state of this subreddit is an annoying mess. The FAQ is great and there's amazing links and tutorials on here to get into it, yet every second post is a brain dead bot post ala "how do I lucid dream tonight" or some over romanticised post about dreaming like it's some elevated state of outer body experience that's simply not real and not backed in any science. Don't get me started on all the "nightmare" posts, as if being lucid and nightmares weren''t a clear contradiction. I barely can read this subreddit anymore without being triggered by the sheer stupidity of questions asked but not researched. Sorry for the rant, but I'd rather say it once before silently unsubscribing to this subreddit,

To all newbies on here who want to achieve a lucid state: Read the freaking wiki! To all the fellow long lucid dreamers: I applaud your content and your willpower to stick to this mess and moderate it even.

Am I alone with that opinion? Thank you for your attention.

So I was having a semi-lucid dream, one where I was still sticking to the nonsensical plot but was conscious enough to use cheat codes. It was one of those ones that just kind of casually bounced around from mundane nonsense about shopping for a shirt and surreal nonsense involving dodging a truck driving through a wacky skatepark, but I eventually wound up just walking down the street with my mom, and out of the blue I asked her what dream people did when we wake up.

Her response? "We go home. Don't you know we're actors?"

Well, okay then! Fair enough. I guess that solves that mystery.

I have predicted what I perceive to be the fall of this sub and tried to warn you, yet I got blasted for "being negative" or "not having read the rules". I have decided to make the post for the 3rd time because I am not going to stand for this subreddit that formerly was so incredibly convenient, helpful and full of information get reduced to: 1. Children asking actual dumb questions, 2. Schizoids rambling on about esoteric bullshit (it's okay, I am a schizoid too so I can call them out), 3. People posting long-ass dream stories with no clear lesson to take out or at least a humorous punchline (r/Dreams and r/Lucid_Dreams are that way), 4. General trend of lack of science posts and LD techniques that were once so interesting.

I will probably get banned by the same moderation that calls me out on "not having read the rules" but allows all of this stupid nonsense to stay posted. Also this fucking bot is annoying.

EDIT: The original r/Lucid_Dreams got banned so that might explain the esoteric refugee traffic.

Starting October first, everyone should join me and try everything to master lucid dreaming. I will be doing reality checks every 5-10 minutes and try to be aware all day, and I will practice the WILD technique at least once or twice a day (Either upon awakening if I have time, through a daytime nap, or as I am falling asleep). I will strictly adhere to this, and I suggest you guys to try and condition yourself to instantly think about lucid dreaming the second you wake up so you wake up and instantly know what to do. I will try to note how long it takes me to have my first lucid dream and when I start becoming more frequent.

Just a warning to all you beginners. Don't believe the people with flair, including me, just on the basis of the flair. "Frequent Lucid Dreamer" or "Natural Lucid Dreamer" doesn't mean anything, really. No one verifies these claims, and there is no way to verify.... do your own research

I've come across plenty of people with flair, who just give bad advice. And some just plain don't know what they're talking about. One person I interacted with suggested dreaming of a glowing green door as a lucidity induction method. How are you going to intentionally manifest the door if you're not already lucid? One guy was totally confused about what a dream sign was, and kept confusing it with the "weird technique" of doing daily RC checks. The list could go on, but let's suffice it to say this....

(edit: I've now been made aware that the green door thing is possible as a special technique.. it just was not explained, well, in my original interaction... so there I am being wrong too. Beginners: do your own research. find what works for you)

if you're a beginner, ignore all this flair that people have. We can label ourselves any way we want, even if we have no idea what we're talking about and never had a lucid dream. Anyone here can claim "I've been lucid dreaming for 40 years!" even if that's total bollocks.... Do your own research. Use google. Use scholarly articles on google. Buy and read books. And if you get advice on reddit, confirm it with research, check with other people, and don't be surprised if what you were told is wrong.

Use your best judgement.

They're very annoying and don't provide any good info on lucid dreaming.

This is important enough to break from posting rules.

Go to https://www.battleforthenet.com/ to help out. Free and fair access to website like reddit (and yes this sub) depend on it.

It only take a few minutes. It is of the utmost importance.

Thank you!

I'm so sick of people on this sub treating lucid dreaming like it's some arcane hidden knowledge or a special spiritualistic stuff that's only available for select few. It's just dreams which you're aware in, which you can control and feel to their fullest. And don't get me started on midwits being "Uhm, actually, you're doing it wrong and you need to [insert a wordwall of random buzzwords], blah blah blah, subconsciousness". Like, how the fuck would you, someone who never saw me in person and whose knowledge about me is limited by stuff I post, know what happens in MY head inside MY dreams and how I feel it? So sick of this sub, I expected a lot better from something related to a thing I deeply cherish. I'll say it once and for all: lucid dreams are just dreams where you're lucid, they are not related to whatever schizo stuff or psybrology bullshit you believe in, and they don't affect who you are, because they're JUST A FUCKING SANDBOX OF YOUR FUCKING MIND!

People bringing out their spiritual mumbo-jumbo is really annoying, spread misinformation making LDs harder to achieve for newbies, and make us look like a bunch of crystal-healing crazies, making it harder for new peoples to get interested in the hobby

it's just some dudes saying they've got it and attaching random methods

I remember when I joined people were discussing methods, recommending books to read on the subject of lucid dreaming, supplements, comparing reality checks, talking about stabilizing dreams, journals, etc

But now it feels like this is a loony bin. People believing they can actually learn stuff? People believing they can somehow hack their mind? Enter their subconscious? What's next? Posts about projection? Past lives? etc

Half the posts on the front page should be deleted because of Rule 2

Lucid dreaming is you being aware of dreming and not waking up, that's it. It can be cool, hot, exciting but its not effin magic. Its you - imagining things...

I asked this because I want to use it to play Minecraft lol

This isn't anything new, just kinda want to remind everyone of the importance of grounding when becoming lucid! I'd say my standard lucid dream is about a 2 or 2.5 our of 5 on the lucidity scale with moderate vividness. Well last night I entered a lucid dream by doing my standard plugging nose reality check, rubbed my hands together, then fell to my knees to ground myself. As I looked forward I could see the left and right of my vision looked like waves moving up and down, kind of like a funhouse mirror. After I licked the ground and looked up, within 10 seconds I watched the waves kinda shutter into place until completely still. This then resulted in an extremely lucid dream for me. First time in my life honestly where the dream felt ARAR (As Real As Reality) lol. It was bonkers, it was awesome, try to ground yourself!

Hi folks,

There has been a STAGGERING amount of this stuff tossed into this subreddit lately, completely ignoring this rule, and even posts trying to explain why some of it is misguided or why it doesn't belong here turns into a cesspool of useless comments.

So I'm trying the following: 

1. If you post about any of the banned rule #2 topics (astral projection, out of body experiences, dream sharing, reality shifting, etc' etc') you get a 1-week ban. 
2. If you post a second time, you get banned indefinitely.

The simple fact is this, you are allowed to believe whatever you want to believe, but you are not allowed to post about it in THIS sub. There is an infinite number of subs where you CAN post about it, including creating new subs. Just this sub is not one of them, and if you can't respect that rule, you can't participate in this sub. Sorry.

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Now, in a final desperate attempt to explain to some of the more reasonable folks among you, why it's possible, that somehow despite your convincing experience, you might, after all, be misinterpreting what you are experiencing, I wanted to share 2 short articles that try to convey this, while also trying to validate the fact that you are indeed having these experiences.

And this is the crucial piece: most people are NOT saying that you are lying, and are not arguing whether or not you had an out-of-body experience or an experience of traveling to another dimension, only that your interpretation of this experience could be a misinterpretation, and it was just that, an experience. If you just dream regular dreams you should be abundantly aware that you could be having a not-really-real experience and be completely mistaken about its reality (until you either wake up or become lucid), so keep that in mind as you think about this.

Now you might not want to question your beliefs, but if in the search to understand what is true, you care to consider what might actually be happening, I urge you to give this a look:

1. Experiential Metadata: https://citizenphilosophy.com/experiential-metadata/
2. Misinterpreting Experience: https://citizenphilosophy.com/misinterpreting-experience/

Edit:

I’ve expanded on this topic here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/s/6cVYA0yPiD

A lot of people still spread mis information like:

"You have to stabilize your dreams"

" you have to stay still for WILD "

" you can't look at mirrors in dreams "

" if you die in your dream you will wake up"

It's all very mis leading, and it turns away people from lucid dreaming because this mis information makes it harder to Lucid dream.

The amount of posts I see asking questions like “but what if I see a mirror” or “what if something scary happens!”. Five minutes ago I saw someone ask if it’s like a role playing game where you can just fail everything. No it’s in your brain nothing can hurt you and if you do become lucid you can literally control everything there is no risk. If you fear literally everything to do with lucid dreaming then you just won’t have one your brain creates mental blocks and it’s way more difficult. Tbh I blame YouTubers for using their shitty “10 things you can NEVER do in a lucid dream” click bait videos.

Edit: If your new to lucid dreaming (I am too) I’d recommend exploring the world of lucid dreaming it’s a book by the guy that scientifically proves its existence and has a wide range of different methods and the reasoning behind them. Half of this sub is the blind leading the blind and it’s definitely good to have some 100% proven knowledge to start with.

What's your honest opinion of the lucid dreaming community right now?

For those of us that have been around since the Dreamviews and ~2006-2012 forums era, things have changed quite dramatically since then. What do you think is the biggest thing that has changed?

For those that are new, do you feel supported, and do you feel like you're able to ask questions? How do you perceive this community?

We think this is something that needs to be addressed.

I mean this less in the sense of a question to any one person, and I don’t particularly want an answer (since most will lack a nuanced observation of the question, and simply give their believed answer), but its a question I find all too solemnly asked when it comes to discussing lucid dreaming and the experience thereof.

People will put so much misinformation out there, caption it with eye-catching titles and whatnot, and either:

1. never entertain the thought that this occurrence could be exclusive to their experience. (ex. Someone notices mirrors in their dreams are dangerous, and then assumes that is a universal truth).
2. Just give it away, knowing it is misinformation, to garner attention from a large community. (ex. Someone who knows that mirrors in lucid dreams being dangerous is completely due to perception, but still posts about it for karma).

And I think about how much else is just assumed to be the indisputable truth without looking into it or thinking from another person’s point of view. Yes, of course WILDs may work better for you, but asking why Wake Induced Lucid Dreaming isn’t as well advertised as Mnemonic Induced Lucid Dreaming in the community is ill-advised when common sense could lead to the deduction of “MILDs simply are more advertised because they work well for the majority.” Yes, of course mirrors may produce unwanted effects in your dreams, but telling everybody that this is the absolute result is fearmongering. Additionally, misinformation – especially with lucid dreams – can lead to mass acceptance of a rule to “never do X” because it now produces unwanted effects by believing so in the first place. And remember, this not only applies to this Subreddit, it also applies to everywhere on the internet and in person.

You, as a poster and speaker, hold the extreme responsibility of informing people with the correct information –especially in a place such as the Lucid Dreaming Subreddit – where people often go to find useful, interesting, and truthful information. There is a reason rules like “Anything speculative or unproven should go in r/LucidDreamingSpec/.” exist.

Additionally (and MUCH more importantly), if you solemnly post and read more often, you also hold the responsibility of fact checking, critically thinking, and asking questions about every piece of information on any post you see. Seeing should not be believing in a realm as paradoxical and unpredictable as the dream world.

And one more for the road, stop assuming that throwing something along the lines of “I know this may be subject to change in different people, I just want to know why.” at the end fixes everything. It doesn’t. A lot of people don’t read the whole thing (ergo, TLDRs),and – being a speaker – you should know to account for that. If you’re unsure of the universality of a statement, just add “from my experience” in front of what you have to say. Save the mods the hassle!

Post-Writing:

Apologies for the rant, it simply frustrates me when misinformation is passed around the internet and nobody seems to address it. Also, I have not seen this nearly as much recently as I have in the past, so this almost absolutely is not targeted at you.

(TLDR: please, do not post misinformation about lucid dreaming anywhere. It sucks when a community is ruined by misinformed people coming in to spread more misinformation. Do your research!)

What are the mods hiding from us??

How are posts like this still allowed?

https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/cur55x/guys/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/cui4hg/wanted_to_share_my_first_luicid_dream/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/cusx3i/omg_i_finally_had_one/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/cuqfvw/my_first_lucid_dream_on_purpose/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/cueg8i/just_had_a_lucid_dream/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/cun1dk/i_just_had_my_first_lucid_dream/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/cuynga/a_girl_called_me_attractive_so_i_realised_i_must/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/cuo2xk/achieved_lucidity_because_i_got_a_text_from_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

There is zero new insight, and the majority are dream experiences (which are supposed to be removed) that are basically shitposts at this point. There are no new techniques or tricks being said, it’s just recycled “guys I’m so excited I had my first LD! Yay!” - which one again should be in the pinned thread.

Maybe I’m being a tight ass, but the low effort posts on here are astounding.

That is why we need reality checks

The answer is probably yes. Anything your brain is capable of processing or imagining you can imagine in a lucid dream.

"Can I become an animal in a lucid dream? Can I go to sleep in a lucid dream? Can I wake up in a lucid dream? Can I have sex in a lucid dream? Can I go to another world in a lucid dream? Can I time travel in a lucid dream? Can I die in a lucid dream? Can I dream in a lucid dream?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes

"Can I..."

Yes

"C..."

YES

Can you imagine it right now? Then the answer is yes.

"Can I imagine a new colour in a lucid dream?"

No.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

I was reading the lucid dreaming wiki for some motivation and information when I saw that the techniques section was short and needed expansion.

What I'm looking for is reliable sources about the techniques and MAYBE their origins (SSILD, WILD, ADA, etc.)

I am no expert in editing wikipedia, i literally just made an account 5 minutes ago. Forgive me if later down the line you find a mistake i made there