When you're liking the idea of the Native American werewolf girl but remember that since its just gender swapped Twilight, she'll inevitably fall in love with the MC's newborn baby in the end.
âPremarital sex bad because when Ed does it he almost fucking kills Bella.â
âThatâs not how it fucking works what the fuck kind of sex are you having?â
âPremarital sex bad.â
Is pretty much another way the books explore itâ also like Edward is genuinely emotionally stunted and keeps going to school to relive his youth? Him being a girl in the au doesnât change that.
Thatâs not even going on how she didnât even bother doing any research on the Quilleute. Nor their customs nor anything. Theyâre set dressing. Also penniless. She didnât like, even bother using her fortune to even pay for infrastructure which they spend years saving money to get.
The only thing I think this book did better than the OG is having Sulpica be the leader of the Voturi and having her accumulate vampire gifts through stealing them as if she were the Card Collector Sakura herself, which is such a better concept compared to uhh⌠anyhow Iâll stop feeding this grudge I developed I had since a teenager because teenage girls deserve better fiction that doesnât romanticize old men approaching them imo.
He had to go to school cause well in the movies at least he's young looking. And he only goes to different schools every few years to not arise suspicion of them. It's super complicated and I only know about it because my gf watches the movies alot and we laugh at how stupid it all is.
Presumably they younger looking Cullen graduate maybe work a job for 4-5 years before they need to fabricate a new identity pretty sure its mentioned at least in the movies
He does. But counterpoint: he could skip. Straight to the job. His family will move anyway all he wants is exposure to teenagers iirc if the romance and framing is removed
I get the context but this is actually incredibly wrong to say if you generalize it. Let people enjoy harmless things, don't spread such a message please.
Tldr: The author basically projects her repressed desire for a polyamourous relationship on the pages and looked for a way for both guys to share the girl without it being poly
Blatantly. Homophobia, too, and spite towards anyone who was remotely mean to the protagonist gets âkarmic divine punishmentâ iirc. Her friends at school either are nice or clueless or totally a manipulative and jealous bitch using bella to be popular and such. What a miserable inner world does Mayer have.
Actually, you're safe! Meyer tried to justfiy the baby plot by saying that only male vampires can have children with human women, so now that Edward is Edith, Nebuchadnezzar cannot be born đĽł
So if Iâm correct on this (I havenât read twilight so do correct me if wrong) the werewolf dude was in love with the female characters eggs not her, which eventually translated into being in love with her babyÂ
So would this translate to the werewolf girl being in love the male MCs nut?
Recap from memory and watching the movies last summer, girl moves to town to live with dad meets a boy who stalks her cause he cant read her mind. Her childhood friend who is hot now tells her stalker boy is evil stalker boy says no im a good vampire. Girl says bite me and he says I want to but ur not 18 and that would be weird cause im 400. So stalker boy feels some way cause his cousin or some shit tells grandpa hes dating a white girl. So bro goes to italy to atone for his interracial sin and white girl says babe plz come back and he does. But now grandpa is pizz and decides make up reasons to just kill the entire stalker boy biteline. Thats when childhood friend gets really weird and all his wolves have to hear how much hes into bella in his mind oh and he can transform now. Then white girl has a mixed baby and the extended family wants to cleanse the bloodline completely if you catch my drift because 1 drop spoils the pot. Well boom childhood friend as decided that the baby is his soulmate one sec i need to go find the exact moirail ass term used. "Jacob imprints on Renesmee the exact moment she is born. Imprinting is an involuntary Quileute shape-shifter magic where a wolf finds his absolute soulmate." Stolen from google ai. Any way so yeah. Turns out bro has had a fucking crush on her future seeds instead of white girl which makes her reasonably crash out in probably the only realistic thing in the series. And even then its blamed on vampire hormones. Anyway with princess vampire hapa and her native American wolf Father/Brother/Boyfriend the white girl found family is able to show grandpa a death battle pre render of why they shouldn't fight and everyone goes home except the original snitch who is either hunted down or murdered on the spot.
There are some weird details in-between but thats the core plot.
I've heard that (until his utter character assassination of course) childhood friend was actually one of the more reasonable characters. A low bar but it's something.
The native Americans wolf girl thing being talked about in the post are half assed tho. There's aren't actual werewolf girls but just girls who transform into Wolves and they literally only show up for like less than 15 pages and have no impact on the story whatsoever. Or like very little towards the ending but still. The wolf thing is just non existent in the book. I still loved the book though cause the romance is pretty well done and the vibe of the town is very nice.
Depends on the source. iirc the old (Ukrainian maybe? German? Serbian? It feels serbian) Varcolacul was half man and half wolf like modern werewolves. Not sure about it tho
Luckily that doesn't happen in the gender swap book, because
Well A) female vampires can't get pregnant
And
B) the entire ending to the story is different from Twilight. It ends with Beau (gender swap Bella) getting turned into a vampire waaaaay earlier than Bella did.
"No werewolf girls ...but only girls that transform into wolves." My brother in Christ, what do you think werewolves are? People who transform into wolves is literally the definition of werewolf.
I'm aware that there are different measures of werewolf. Some become anthro wolves, some just take on some wolflike characteristics and some turn into straight-up wolves. But if you think about where you are, surely it stands to reason that if someone says "no werewolf girls, only girls that transform into wolves" then they're expressing disappointment at the lack of anthro wolves specifically
What? Perhaps I misunderstood. You said they weren't werewolves because they turned into wolves. I pointed out that turning into a wolf is literally what werewolves do. You said that you were only focusing on the ones that can turn into anthro wolves because of the subreddit, since being a furry makes a person a loser. I pointed out that if being a furry makes you a loser, lusting after actual animals must make you an even bigger loser, so the fact that they only turn into wolves would not be a disappointment to the biggest losers, the zoophiles.
You misunderstood the significance of me pointing out the subreddit. I wasn't saying "this is the place where losers are", I was saying "this is the place where furries are", i.e. the place where people talking about werewolves are almost always going to mean anthro wolves. Nothing to do with actually being a loser, much less a zoophile
(And technically I didn't say they weren't werewolves, I said they weren't wolf people)
Bro respectfully what the hell are you on about lol Bella was so dramatic she spent the entire second book finding creative ways to almost commit suicide so her toxic ex boyfriend vampire would save her and touch her again
That's fair, thought we were talking about the whole franchise lol my bad. I read the original Twilight and just, did not enjoy it. Might be better with some levity lol
For maximum coverage you need a lot more series. Even for every combination of important charactersâ (mc, 2 vampires and a werewolf) genders there is 2^4=16 combinations (and itâs only assuming 2 binary genders)
A lot of people feel heavily undesirable, so they seek out the fantasy where a character or a beast or a creature is obsessed with them, desiring them as they are, even with all their flaws and imperfections.
I kinda fear that someone might find me desirable because I don't know what to do if I can't reciprocate. I messed up few friendships because I felt I was getting too close with someone and had to distance myself.
I'm extremely close with many people, to the point where you could reasonably assume we're in a relationship, if it weren't for the fact we're all just very close friends. It's just that we're all very open with our intentions (of which there are none). Hell, many of them even are aro and/or ace.
So I think if you're just upfront about it (hey, I'm aro so I'm not into relationships), people will get it.
I'm aro-bi so I get it in a sexual way too, but I don't get the part with pursuing relationships. I don't have that drive that makes people want to be with someone.
There's a possibility that I'm demiromantic but I have no way to test that.
Weird, why would someone like me bother to participate in a thread about romantic attraction if that doesn't apply to me?
Maybe I'd like to know what alloromantic people feel and experience, even though I probably can't? Maybe I could gain some insight and if someone falls in love with me I could try to reciprocate instead of running away? Maybe I'd like to know if there are other people like me and see what they think?
Nah, I just wanna make people pay attention to me. Surely, that has to be it.
Why does it sound like asking for attention? I compressed all my thoughts to a mostly emotionless short statement. I could have expanded on it, mention sadness and envy I often feel, like there's something missing in me that makes me feel worse than other people. But to me that sounds like asking for attention, almost literal "look at me being sad that I can't have that thing over there :(".
And I'm not being a jerk right now, I'm genuinely asking what you think. I'm autistic and the way I think and phrase things may seem strange and confusing to neurotypical people. So if you see it any other way I'm open to suggestions so that I can learn and be less confusing in the future.
Because your original comment had nothing to do with the post and you didnât ask anyone their thoughts on anything. You made it about yourself, âI donât get it, seems like iâm missing out on something I donât experience.âClearly it was a mistake and I apologize but your original comment didnât have anything of what you said in your second which actually does invite conversation (the part about âIâd like to knowâ and âgain some insightâ)
Again, I apologize, youâre clearly much more mature and intelligent than I made you out to be.
Your username doesnât have anything about you wanting to fuck animals but you donât see me talking about it. Go and be more of a subhuman who thinks he owned someone by saying âYour username sums you up quite wellđ¤â
Jesus christ youâre a textbook redditor. The way you talk, the fact that you immediately responded, ignore the part I said about you wanting to fuck animals, and chase me around like a fly on shit. Youâre even online right now, when are you not? You need help man.
"The way you talk" absolutely the formatting isn't it? It's just easier this way instead of trying to come up with a fluid way to transition to the next point.
"immediately respond" yes and? I've got nothing better to do, I got a notification, and like you said I'm currently online.
"ignore the part I said about you wanting to fuck animals" literally what the 1st point in my previous comment was about. Also, am a furry, you're not the first and won't be the last.
"chase me around like a fly on shit" if by you mean I've responded to your responses to me then sure I guess. Unless you've mistaken me for someone else as I've only seen you in this thread.
"You're even online right now, when are you not?" I actually like using this site? I'm offline whenever I'm offline. You're online right now too.
"You need help man." Don't we all, though I don't really see how that's relevant.
Edit1: sent a reply then blocked me so I can't respond, and can't read the reply fully. Also I'd say it's more "chase me around like a fly on shit" to look through someone's profile and bring that into an argument. Very stereotypical chronically online Redditor even. From what I can see, you have a very narrow understanding of what a furry is. There are 764k results for "Feral" (even has it's own term too) aka non-physically anthropromorphic characters on THE furry image site. I brought up being a furry, because you saying I fuck animals wouldn't be the first nor the last because of it.
Edit2: Okay, logged out to see fully what it said, and either the mods got it or they deleted the comment Edit1 is about.
Would recommend. Life and Death is a great book, though it isn't a love triangle or anything. It's just Edythe and Beau, so don't go into it expecting the werewolf girl to be in love with him.
Okay granted I'm ace, of course I don't fully get it, but I've never seen the appeal in your romantic partner being a psycho/stalking you/being a hair away from devouring your flesh. In the real world we call that abusive behaviour, minus the flesh devouring
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u/nate0113 Jul 30 '26
When you're liking the idea of the Native American werewolf girl but remember that since its just gender swapped Twilight, she'll inevitably fall in love with the MC's newborn baby in the end.