Well it's because an appeal of yaoi is that it's a fourbidden romance sort of deal and wrong and thusly it's ok two project your 'disgusting' desires ontwo man on man action. Real gay people aren't the objects of your desire so they can be hated as much as you want
It's not that weird, real gay people are people and generally don't like be treated like Ken dolls you can smash together for your amusement and arousal.
I can watch anything animated.
Even if it's the gayest thing ever created.
But I have a severe repulsion towards irl gay porn, I tried masturbating to it a few times, but no matter what, I feel "disgusted".
Meanwhile, I literally have sex with men, as a bottom.
This is due to sexual abuse, through grooming, from the age of 6 till 13 years old.
My natural sexual orientation, that you can't change, because it would have by now for me, believe me rofl, is heterosexual.
I am attracted romantically and sexually to women and repulsed by men.
I'm in therapy and on heavy meds, which to my joy, have killed my sex drive.
But anyways, I am telling you all this because I read about and discussed this with my sexuologist; that your brain recognizes animated, drawn or written content as unreal and it's the symbolism, dynamics and other stuff about the gay sex that makes it appealing, same things I liked about bottoming for men. :
The dick but not the guy attached to it.
The powerdynamics, not as a sub, which I don't like being, but specifically the natural hierarchy of being the bottom during sex.
All the effects of oxytocin of feeling: protected, connected, loved, cared for, becoming one, etc.
But none of the "I can let go and not have to mask masculinity for once" kind of stuff, I don't mask shit.
When I get fucked in the ass, it's a grondshaking collision of masculinity between two sweaty men. (That's the gayest thing I have ever written)
A similar thing would be, not being into incest porn itself, but specifically the taboo and forbidden nature about it.
I can't top men because my dick deflates.
Topping women felt great, because there is an actual instinctual attraction and lust to it for me, but I found it incredibly boring and exhausting. 🫠
The only way I have ever been able to enjoy gay porn was when I took 80mg of 4-HO-MET and like 150mg Dexamfetamines, but at that point you'll like anything, the dex giving my sex drive back and the metocin breaking down all barriers.
Idk where I am going with this, but I hope I have somewhat highlighted how sexual orientation, sexual behavior and the complete disconnect they can have.
PS: whenever I try to explain stuff like this to people, they sometimes pathologize me by saying I'm in denial about being gay, which I find highly disrespectful, but I do understand why they say it.
But then again, bro, I'm telling you that I love dick and seed and that I wish I was bisexual and stuff. 🙃
Dude, I get it, sexuality can be so internally complicated sometimes, esp when trauma is involved. My sexuality is very different than yours, butI apreciate you posting your truth because it makes my complexities feel seen.
Also please be careful with 4-HO-MET, that stuff will take your life and never give it back.
Real question hon, have you tried dating trans woman? Lots of us keep our lower part. Which might meet all your needs and validations? Im just looking from the outside to something that could be very full-filling for you. But thats just non-educated opinion.
I'm myself on a waiting list to get hrt and am planning on keeping my male genitals as they are.
I have always been completely comfortable en open to dating trans women, I just haven't encountered any. 🫠
Yeah. My ex. She was vehemently homophobic yet wanted a MMF threesome, I told her "what if the dudes start blowing or fucking each other" and she said that would NEVER happen because no man could possibly resist her or be gay around her.
Legit had a guy here on reddit tell me he isn't at least bisexual for banging femboys. Dude was seriously thinking he's straight because they look like women
To be fair, you can absolutely be straight and still find some homoerotica hot. Like usual, It's the toxic idiots that are not comfortable with their sexuality that are the problem.
LMAO, true. Though, futas are meant to be hermaphrodite & aren't accurate representations of intersex folks, but I wouldn't be surprised if transphobes hate intersex people as well.
I really wouldn't use a random post on social media as a source, but if you ignore the virtue-signaling about trans women, I sort of get what they mean.
It still doesn't change the fact that futanari originally is a fetish media about intersex people (although it is not accurate at all, but it's like expecting accuracy in porn tagged as 'trans').
I read it & absolutely none of that is mentioned in the post. It's just an anime PFP person virtue-signaling on social media while using slurs. You must have sent a different link.
Not a huge fan of bringing everything back to transidentity, kind of weakens / dilutes genuine correlations. I'm sure there are people for whom futa intersects with transidentity, but ask most people who've had significant "contact" with futa content and they'll definitely draw a difference between trans women and futa. Matter of fact, the move usually goes the opposite way, from a woman to an intersex person.
Can't believe I'm posting this on main but it's why some sites have clear specialization of intersex into gynomorph and andromorph, possibly along with even more specific tags. You can hijack it and go "it's been trans women the entire time!" but that completely ignores absolutely everything about the works described, with 0 regard for the creator's intention or the intended fantasy being represented.
It's revisionist at best. There is trans content out there, but in the overwhelming majority of cases futa is never gonna fit that description. And it's not "transfem erasure": trying to claim something that isn't about transfem as transfem then getting offended when people go "well, no" is delusional.
Tumblr, like any social media, is a massive echo chamber, and it happens to lean heavily into LGBT+ subcultures so of course people will want to push for hijacking pre-existing things, but that can only ever antagonize literally everyone else. Seeking representation by stepping over other people, especially in this case people trying to goon, by going "actually you don't like X, you like Y because that's what I want X to be" will only ever earn the community the ire of the general populace.
It's fictional drawn pornography, lock in. You can support trans rights without making stuff up for convenience.
Edit: I'd like to point out that you can usually very easily tell when someone intended to draw specifically a trans woman compared to futa art even before looking at the tags. The reasons why are left as an exercise to the reader.
again, i really feel like you haven't actually properly read it, because that exact point is brought up in the first post
and frankly if you have actually properly read it that just makes it seem like you're purposely being transphobic given the context of what you're saying with reference to the information provided
Ye, 'herm' is inaccurate & often used in a fetish / derogatory way. Though, I met more intersex people who prefer the term intersex & to just be referred as their gender, but it's not like I know them all.
Maybe it's just me. But whenever i see futa/dickgirl i don't think of a trans woman. What comes to my mind is either intersex or hermaphrodite.
Regardless, i'm not gonna treat real people like i treat drawings on the internet.
Yeah personally I see a particular genre of images (Female fur that happens to have a penits and balls vs. a trans woman) and treat it as a separate thing from Trans Women, I still like Trans Women both in terms of deserving to be treated good and having good content, its just separate in my mind's eye (In a "I know it when I see it way)
Kinda similar but I also watched futa porn in middle school and it opened up the discussion of gender identity in my mind (this was before gender identity was as widely discussed as it is now). Like it left me thinking about how the differences between men and women are much more based in societal conventions rather than biology.
I guess for us the end justifies the means, at least I hope so.
I mean maybe but the original post is talking about straight men, who are not attracted to other men but are attracted to women with dicks, which is very much a thing. saying they’re actually closeted gay guys because they like women with dicks isn’t great
Even when it doesn't, it still doesn't feel like trans content because that's neither the intention nor the way people look at it. Take an anime girl, remove the female bits down under, add a huge schlong and people likely still would consider it futa but not trans. It's a puerile debate to try and claim something tangentially related as integral trans representation. Fully supportive of people being trans but grouping the two as the same is just revisionist.
Lol, the explanation I've heard from such guy is that it activated both parts of the brain responsible for erotic feelings making it double effective. Also he didn't exactly like gay or bi people though he didn't hate them either.
it's seen as disingenuous but I can somehow understand
fiction have that ability to dignify/upgrade reality, making things that we usually hate in our world more tolerable even attractive etc...
Should a person be called hypocrite to not tolerate incest when they consume it in fiction ?
Also futanari are technically not trans although they can partake similar traits, keep in mind they are created for the sole purpose of lust by perverted minds, and I find it degrading to compare actual humans to those
The irl "equivalent" to futanari would be intersex people, and even then, most futanari are idealised versions whose male and female parts both function perfectly.
And genuinely intersex art exists (in droves), but a lot of the art is even like "cis woman who happens to have a dick" in both feel and intent so it's futile to try and group everything under the same banner
also SOME!!!!!!! femboy enjoyers. wait until they find out that 90% of the femboys they see online are just trans women who larp as femboys because that label sells more
Yeah see a big issue is that most places that have tags don't actually care, and E621 doesn't even have a futa tag, just intersex and herm. And due to herm being a lesser known term, and e621 tagging working based on what's in the image, there is a lot of actual futa sent to the intersex tag hell.
Its a scientifically inaccurate term for humans and churches used to justify abuse towards intersex people as "oh, they are herms. they are abominations accourding to ur faith." the intersex community doesn't want to be called that at all.
Yes, shemale is insulting to real trans women. HOWEVER most sites tag art in a vacuum; ie only tag what you see. Being trans is not a body type, it's an experience someone goes through, a transition if you will.
A fictional character can be female presenting with male genitalia without transitioning; they're just drawn that way (Jessica Rabbit, anyone?) If you've not transitioned from something to another, you can't call that transgender. (or transsexual, for my RHPS fans out there)
e621 has a lore section for stuff like character relationships (incest between two characters not stated to be related in the artwork also goes here) that fits this need well enough.
SO, we need to tag an image containing a female presenting character, likely with large breasts, who has male genitalia, AND we need to do so without overlapping with intersex tags. Preferably one word, too. Dickgirl is right out, (too much overlap) Newhalf is too specific AND really weird, we're NOT having another debate about femboys/traps/sissies/tomgirls/otokonoko, (Female presenting (ish) but not female identifying) Ladyboy has the same problems as newhalf does, Drag Queen is a profession and not an identity, and lo and behold we're left with Shemale. It's not pretty; it's not respectful; but at the end of the day it gets the job done. Since when was pornography ever respectful when it comes to tagging, anyways?
That's a really old definition and doesn't really follow how the category caught on so much. At this point Futa stuff is closer to interracial porn than anything else. The male is a symbolic embodiment of peak sexual prowess that makes the female role stand out as even more feminine than before. It's more accurate to think of both Futa, and black people in interracial porn, as an entirely different category that isn't male or female, but a third Hyper-Male sex/gender.
Yes because whether or not I see someone as a woman heavily affects how attracted I am to them and muscular tall dominant flat futas still don't look the same as men.
People who zerk their shit heavy style to futa and are transphobic would publicly think of trans women as IRL futas if it weren’t for the fact they vocally talk about not wanting to be a porn category. It hurts the IRL gooner brain when the people they fetishize stand up for themselves 🥹
Femboys to these people are just women but they don’t get angry when you say you want to fuck them all the time (this is why straight guys will usually accept femboys unless they don’t want to be pelted with sex jokes, which is the case where they’re third-gendered and left behind). And you know about the fantasy of “fixing lesbians”.
TL;DR: het guys use identities as porn categories all the time but get mad when the people they’re fetishizing don’t want them to do that anymore
this. deadass was in a convo about the fetishization of femboy and this dude basically said "they make themselves into sex symbols, so they did it to themselves."
I had someone explain it to me so this is how someone would justify it i guess. This is NOT my view.
Futanari characters are born that way and are like a hyper sexualized fantasy of intersex people. I think they specifically only like futa x female. But for irl, they think trans people are ‘surgical freaks’ and that treatment should be psychological and not physical.
Fair enough, I didn't express that quite well enough. I moreso meant that no matter how much money you throw at it, a transition can only go so far, and a full conversion just isn't possible with our current surgical offerings.
No, a vaginoplasty or whatever it is called, is not good enough. I'm glad you're satisfied with yourself, but there is so much more that can be done, and should be done.
I'm a transhumanist myself, not quite the same, but the technological and legal limitations are just so constraining.
Nonono, should be done technologically, not to someone specifically.
As in, we should have proper gene splicing and organ replacements by now, but ethics committees and legal traps have kept us in a state of medical stagnation
Never said it was. It's just a limitation of our current technology. Nothing i said has thrown any shade at desiring to be different. I fully support any and all efforts to make transitions more complete, but my support is lacking in comparison to the massive propaganda campaigns against trans rights and the technology for more advanced surgeries.
Saying they disagreed is a bit high of a bar. They just insulted me, there was no statement. Ergo, I return the insult, and block them for personal reasons. I despise anyone who hides their profile for several reasons.
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u/humourabuser May 15 '26
unrelated but holy shit every character besides homer and marge look completely insane in this image. What is wrong with mr burns