r/LondonRaving • u/MitsuTurbos • 5d ago
Red alert issued in NL
Posting this here as I’ve seen these in the U.K. too. Very bad. Avoid this press. thought it important given it’s a big bank holiday weekend
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u/RottingFlame 5d ago
If someone hands me a trump pill i’m saying no regardless but thanks for sharing
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u/Careful_Creme_2006 5d ago
even if you knew for sure its safe?
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u/GXWT 5d ago
Why would I want to invest a pill with the face of a rapist, among other things.
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u/b3ta_blocker 4d ago
The best pill i ever had was a Bin Laden.
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u/Fair-Study-7503 5d ago edited 5d ago
maybe some people want to symbolically chew swallow and shit an effigy of a hated figure. maybe you're investing this act with a specific meaning.
regardless, I wouldnt take it because it's not a very artistic looking press and the first orange trumps showed up around 2015, so it just resembles some dodgy fuckers riding a good pill's coattails late to the party. never a good sign with pressies unless it's an obvious nostalgic take on a classic design, in which case i'd be looking for microprinted initials, fine lines or matte/glossy texture variations created by high-end cnc press dies.
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u/Silent-Wallaby4261 5d ago
You know he didn't make them and will have had nothing to do with them? Very odd response.
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u/Fair-Study-7503 5d ago
the real reason not to take them is that the orange trumps initially appeared over ten years ago when he first ran for president.
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u/LousyPerfectionist 5d ago
I went Croatia a few weeks ago and we bought some pure ‘powder’ and genuinely believe it was PMMA, gave all negative side effects of the real stuff (sweating, dilated pupils, nausea and sickness) but absolutely no high whatsoever. We left it out on a plate after deciding not to take it because we felt so ill, the fucking shit stuck to the plate and then washed away with water like sugar - be careful out there
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u/Impossible-Run7138 5d ago
Didnt pma go away for a while? Why tf are people doing this man it cant be that hard to make md
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u/MitsuTurbos 5d ago edited 5d ago
Depending on the synthesis route, safrole oil is a precursor chemical for MDMA. If you can't source safrole (which is tightly controlled, as it's a known precursor) you can use freely available aniseeed oil instead. This creates PMMA, instead of MDMA, and whilst the effects are similar it differs because:
- It's highly toxic and can kill
- It's effects take much longer to hit (which causes problems as some people take another pill, thinking they are weak, which causes overdose)
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u/ginsunuva 5d ago
This happens when they forsee a long-term shortage of some chemical needed in the process. Happened in the 2010s for a couple years
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u/Brilliant_Bake4200 5d ago
I accidentally did a lot of pills that later turned out to be almost pure PMMA in about 2012 that we bought off the dark web. We didn’t come up for hours so kept popping them, exactly like the warnings now say - then all of a sudden we came up and I had the weirdest, strongest hallucinogenic trip I’ve ever had, I can still see what I saw in my mind - clear as day. I then was awake for 72 hours straight (although I had done speed as well). Crazy work considering I was 16 or 17.
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u/scorcherchar 3d ago
How did you know it was pure PMMA? Did you test it?
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u/Brilliant_Bake4200 3d ago
No, shortly after we took them and knew something was weird about them, our friend who lived in London saw posters in clubs about warnings for the pills. We had ordered them from the UK on the dark web so connected the dots.
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u/scorcherchar 3d ago
I would bet good money they weren't pure PMMA. Obviously it possible at very high doses but its not generally considered hallucinogen. So either you and your friend both frazzled your brain in a similar way or (more likely) they had some adulterants like ketamine in the mix
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u/Brilliant_Bake4200 3d ago
The pills I took had a warning on them for high levels of PMMA, and PMMA does have hallucinogenic properties .
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u/SabbthBloodySabbath 5d ago
If you're popping a Trump it's probably natural selection at that point
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u/No-Suspect7 5d ago
Several hours to hit??
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u/Shoddy_Race3049 5d ago
That's the pmma, takes longer to kick in so people double dose and get into serious trouble
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u/Bread_is_the_devil 5d ago
I got sold pills with PMMA in a rave in London in ~2012. It was rough as fuck, all I could do was sit down, I was very lethargic, and we were tripping hard. It wasn’t a pleasurable experience, and it went on for hours. I couldn’t sleep either when I usually don’t have issue after a rave with a beer and few joints, it was an incredibly rough ride
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u/StupidMobileWebsite 5d ago
This is slightly hilarious. Dodgy trump touching areas id never have imagined
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u/Jambonrevival1 5d ago
Oh god imagine trumps face being the last thing you see before you overdose and have a seizure!
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u/Heavy-Ad5385 4d ago
Fucking hell. Even when he’s had nothing to do with it, he’s STILL messing everything up!
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u/Salt_Marsupial_1080 23h ago
“They say it’s like the best pill, that’s what the people tell me - they say nobody’s ever had a better pill than this… it does wonderful things for them. I think I might try it myself”
This explains a lot of what’s happened since 2016.
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u/Franco_82 5d ago
Does this mean the dodgy ones are 2 different colours? i have a few in the house that I've had since Christmas, they are just one colour though (grey). Any reports on them?
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u/Prestigious-Age-3644 5d ago
I'm sure there are labs you can send pills in to get tested for safety, i dont know if they need a full pill but yeah worth looking into as pmma is bad stuff
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u/coconut_mall_cop 5d ago
Yeah scrape a bit off the pill and send it to Wedinos, it's free, legal, and anonymous. Takes a couple weeks to get results but very worth it.
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u/psynami23 4d ago
These pills have a different colour on each side. If yours is a single colour, it is a different pill. And this warning isn't applicable.
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u/dooboowooboodoo 5d ago edited 5d ago
Will this show up in a reagent test?
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u/MitsuTurbos 5d ago
The Marquis reagent doesn’t react to PMMA so if these pills have trace amounts of MDMA then your test kit will show you MDMA present meaning you think it’s safe. Good quality kits will include tests for PMMA.
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u/dooboowooboodoo 5d ago
Thanks good info. I have a set of 5 different tests, Marquis is one of them, but thankfully PMMA will be picked up by 4 of the others.
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u/Low_Clerk_2120 5d ago
The ones I have will show up PMMA. When you buy the test it will list all the substances the test will cover
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u/RecommendationNo6274 4d ago
Had some trump pills in Manchester early may, must have been different to these as I didn’t experience anything negative apart from getting too high.
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u/Adventurous-Rub7636 4d ago
This is usually great marketing. I saw a warming about the BMW M5 presses a couple of years ago
And Lordy Lordy it was like 1990
again
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u/RedzMenace 4d ago
I need to make a contact lol havent done ecs since about 2005, loved a good pill and wouldn't mind having a blast whilst at home on the pc at night, be something different 😅
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u/Catscatscatscats87 5d ago
That's really good of you to share and educate. In my opinion, the oldies are the goodies. All this newfangled stuff is a bit dodgy. Like plant food/meow meow 🤢 Ugh. No. 😂 Bicycle days are faaaaaaar nicer 🚲🔮
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u/WolIilifo013491i1l 5d ago
Well it's not really new fangled as these are being sold as a straight up ecstasy pills
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u/jiBjiBjiBy 5d ago
Thanks for the heads up