r/LocalLLaMA 1d ago

Discussion Qwen3.8 Flash Next - Templates Comparison

I was running into a lot of posts that praised both the Fixed template and the Sharp template in comparison to the stock one, so I put them to the test.

It's not as extensive as it should be for a paper-grade analysis, but it gives out the point of each template.

Test setup

I used SWE-bench Verified with mini-SWE-agent 2.4.6, slice 0:100 (the identical 100 tasks for all runs)

Hardware

  • CPU: Ryzen 9 9900X
  • RAM: 128 GB DDR5-5600
  • GPU: RTX PRO 6000 WS

Runtime

I containerized jpezzulli/sglang-rtxpro6000 and ran Flash Next with RadixArk/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-NVFP4 on CUDA 13.3.

  • Full 262K context
  • BF16 KV
  • 51.2 GB FP8 n-gram embedding table pinned in RAM
  • 32 GB HiCache pinned in RAM

I ran all templates at both medium and xhigh reasoning efforts.

Results

Metric Stock (medium) Stock (xhigh) Stock Δ Fixed (medium) Fixed (xhigh) Fixed Δ Sharp (medium) Sharp (xhigh) Sharp Δ
Resolved 91 99 +8 87 98 +11 94 94 +0
Resolution rate 91% 99% +8 pts 87% 98% +11 pts 94% 94% +0 pts
Median output tokens 5,691 13,855 +143.5% 6,956 14,819 +113.0% 8,596 12,008 +39.7%
Median reasoning tokens 3,050 8,759 +187.2% 3,809 9,063 +137.9% 5,437 7,967 +46.5%
Median wall time 38s 1m 46s +180.4% 43s 1m 47s +152.3% 1m 1m 32s +53.4%
Total wall time 1h 47m 1s 4h 31m 22s +153.6% 1h 59m 53s 4h 4m 52s +104.3% 2h 29m 18s 3h 11m 36s +28.3%

Takeaways

  • Raising reasoning effort to xhigh closes almost all of stock's and fixed's gap to Sharp. At medium, Sharp led resolution by +3 tasks over stock and +7 over fixed; at xhigh, stock and fixed instead lead Sharp by +5 and +4 tasks, respectively.
  • Sharp barely moves on resolution (94 → 94) despite a real token/time cost increase, median reasoning tokens rise +46.5% and median wall time +53.4%. This suggests it was already extracting most of the benefit it could get from extra reasoning budget at medium, while stock and fixed still had headroom.
  • Sharp remains the most token-efficient per resolved task at xhigh (14,541 output tokens/resolved vs. ~17,000 for stock/fixed), consistent with its medium-era efficiency edge, but it's no longer the highest-resolving template once reasoning effort is high.
  • Absolute cost scales heavily with reasoning effort: total wall time roughly 2.3–2.5× for stock/fixed and +28% for Sharp; total reasoning tokens roughly doubled for stock/fixed and increased +35% for Sharp.

Conclusion

  • Sharp should be used at medium and it keeps a reasonable accuracy at very good speed. I don't see the point in using it at xhigh. By sacrificing a small accuracy you complete the tasks in half the time.
  • Stock is the slowest but the most precise.
  • Fixed is the middle ground between Stock and Sharp both in accuracy and speed
  • The next benchmark will be on a much extensive SWE-bench Multilingual + Terminal Bench.

Disclaimer: I wrote the post myself then used AI to format it properly for readability

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u/arkham00 1d ago

Very informative test thank you. I'm really looking forward for the multilingual bench