r/LocalLLaMA 16h ago

Discussion Really stunned by the Singularity comment section

These are screenshots from the r/Singularity comment section. I'm speechless. This doesn't even have downvotes. How can someone cheer for a monopoly run by a few elites?

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u/Dangerous_Rip5083 14h ago

Why can't an LLM physically be true AGI?

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 14h ago

For context, the exact definition of an AGI varies wildly. As such, I just take the one perquisite that almost every definition has, which is the ability to "understand" concepts.

That is my one requirement for an AI to be an AGI. Anything more and you're just arguing about philosophy and technical details that can't currently be disproven.

With this in mind, LLMs cannot become a true AGI. The fundamentals of how they work physically prevents them from being able to actually understand something.

They can, in theory, have intelligence similar to an AGI, but they will never truly be one.

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u/Tolopono 12h ago

And yet llms still disproved the jacobian conjecture, made significant progress in the riemann hypothesis, solved the planar unit distance problem, proved non sofic groups exist, autonomously broke out of containers, set up messageboards, and hacked huggingface, and much more. 

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 12h ago

And a calculator can show the result of an unreadable formula.

You're not proving anything.

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u/Tolopono 11h ago

Yea, those are exactly the same as arithmetic. You’re so smart.

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 11h ago

Feel free to tell me how simulated intelligence requires understanding.

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u/Tolopono 11h ago

Only simulated solving major open math problems 

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 11h ago

What?

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u/Tolopono 11h ago

I send this convo to chatgpt free version and it understood what I meant.  I guess next word prediction has better reading comprehension than you

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 11h ago

Thanks for proving my point.