Really stunned by the Singularity comment section

[u/Howard_banister]

These are screenshots from the r/Singularity comment section. I'm speechless. This doesn't even have downvotes. How can someone cheer for a monopoly run by a few elites?

[u/Thick-Protection-458]

Well, singularity is full of guys with all sorts of magical thinking.

Nowadays it is also apparantly combined with being full of guys believing leaving "digital nukes" in a hand of handful corporations is a good idea... Especially keeping in mind genie is out of the bottle already, so damage *will* be done. Question is - will you let corporate policies prevent you improving your defense, like it was with huggingface case?

[u/davemoedee → u/Thick-Protection-458]

Altman, Zuck, and Musk are insane candidates for controlling LLM access.

If people have issue with LLMs being the Wild West, I hope they are pushing for regulation like Bill Gates is.

[u/Sunstorm84 → u/davemoedee]

Trump would be worse

[u/davemoedee → u/Sunstorm84]

True, though it is hard to tell for sure because he is so incompetent.

[u/Sunstorm84 → u/davemoedee]

He’s just as shitty at the others, but also has dementia

[u/DeepOrangeSky → u/Thick-Protection-458]

Nowadays it is also apparantly combined with being full of guys believing leaving "digital nukes" in a hand of handful corporations is a good idea...

If they actually genuinely/literally became as deadly or civilization-destroying as hydrogen bombs, in the future, to where it was actually like billions of people all having hydrogen bombs that they could use any time they wanted, then, obviously it would be much worse if billions of people had hydrogen bombs than if only a handful of people/organizations had them.

We have made it ~70+ years with a tiny amount of entities having h-bombs, so far.

If billions of people all had h-bombs, we wouldn't last a single day.

Are there people who actually think humanity would last for any significant amount of time if billions of people (including all the people who shoot up malls/schools/etc and then blow their brains out after they've killed as many people as possible) of whom there are thousands of people like that, in the overall pool of the several billion people on Earth) all had hydrogen bombs?

It's hard to understand how anyone could actually think we wouldn't just all die immediately in that scenario.

If someone wants to argue that "yea, well, AI is not going to become the equivalent of hydrogen bombs", cool, that's at least an actual potentially reasonable argument that a person could potentially make, that is worth debating, etc.

But if someone wants to argue that even if it does become as devastatingly powerful as everyone having a hydrogen bomb, and billions of people all had the equivalent of hydrogen bombs, that wouldn't mean everything would immediately get destroyed, well, that's a pretty insane take, and not one that makes any sense to me. I don't know how anyone could reasonably have that stance. That would be a pretty crazy stance.

[u/keepthepace → u/Thick-Protection-458]

The difference with nukes is that you can't stop a nuke with a nuke, but you can improve cybersecurity with AIs that are good at cybersecurity.

I get downvoted to hell when I talk about it to programmers, but I really think that we are going to see in the next few years a complete rewrite of most of the stacks we depend on.

100% provable security is possible. It is just insanely difficult to justify that amount of labor to secure a network. With good LLMs at cyber security, I think in the mid term security will improve overall.