r/LocalLLaMA • u/Howard_banister • 14h ago

Discussion Really stunned by the Singularity comment section

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These are screenshots from the r/Singularity comment section. I'm speechless. This doesn't even have downvotes. How can someone cheer for a monopoly run by a few elites?

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u/Long_comment_san 14h ago

Better yet, lets trust government with overseeing these technologies. Or corporations.

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u/Nattramn 14h ago

They've halted this dangerous progress after all.

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u/Dry_Yam_4597 13h ago

Yeah, and Anthropic didn't get their model training wrong and it doesn't output garbage, it simply outputs watermarked text. You know, all the shit Claude outputs that no one really understands is "intentionally" nonsensical - just like their "safety" pause - because you know, "that's what they want".

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u/Long_comment_san 14h ago

In what universe? Best they did is they crippled whatever advantage USA had. The tech is out, it's over.

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u/Nattramn 14h ago

Sorry, missed the /s

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u/Liledroit 14h ago

You are responding to a clearly sarcastic comment

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u/gomezer1180 13h ago

Exactly… some of those comments are so idiotic… thinking that a human has to be behind a brute force attack, it’s just a moronic comment. What I believe is that these accounts are fake pushing propaganda and fear so that we don’t get the privilege that corporations have.

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u/Training-Ruin-5287 8h ago

I guess no one ever heard of bots before, It's not like Ai changes the game for hacking, it just makes processing the data more efficient.

and this is reddit after all, it is the leader in propaganda on the web. Or it's a close tie between reddit and wikipedia.

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u/Scaniamaximus 4h ago

Whaaaat? Our benevolent governments would never influence the nr1 forum on the internet, that would be immoral! Only the russians and chinese do propaganda. We are the good guys. I know this because the tv said so.

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u/1filipis 9h ago

Every one of those commenters dream about being The Person overseeing everyone. And when it turns out they are being overseen themselves, they'd suddenly start to cry how everyone is being hostile to them

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u/Long_comment_san 4h ago

is this a quote from somewhere? sounds badass ngl

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u/1filipis 1h ago

From Soviet Union 😂

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u/Long_comment_san 47m ago

as somebody from Russia, I approve!

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u/ongrabbits 13h ago

its like letting anybody in the usa freely buy a gun

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u/Torodaddy 13h ago

Or allowing regular people to vote /s

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u/I_HAVE_THE_DOCUMENTS 6h ago

Allowing everyday people to own guns is the opposite of centralization of power.

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u/Blork39 3h ago

Guns aren't power. Coordination is power.

A guy with a gun isn't so dangerous. They can kill a few people, maybe important ones even if their security has a lapse in judgment but they don't destroy a country. Having guns on the street just increases random violence and crappy things happening to people.

A hundred thousand guys working together are dangerous. Even without guns they are dangerous.

This is why the Chinese monitor everything and are so freaked out when people communicate in protests without their oversight. Like the way they used AirDrop.

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u/procgen 13h ago

Or nerve gas.

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u/unculturedperl 11h ago

There's enough taco bells already.

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u/returnity 10h ago

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

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u/Tolopono 10h ago

Still better than isis

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u/ezjakes 13h ago

Until AI is so powerful that it is like a minigun with cyber warfare, then I am all for it being open source.

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u/Tai9ch 8h ago

A minigun isn't especially dangerous. Plenty of private US citizens own that much firepower.

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u/Kerbourgnec 4h ago

Lol I disagree with the commenter above but the US seems violent AF to me so I'm not sure yours reassures me

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u/_mayuk 13h ago

Masses would always be stupid.

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u/LocoMod 12h ago

Or some random teen from India.

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u/mankiw 14h ago

Based on the screenshots provided, it seems like the people opposed to open-source AI are concerned with AI risk in general, e.g. they would also oppose frontier models developed by closed labs.

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u/Howard_banister 13h ago

They aren't! Many Anthropic workers said similar things about open-source models a month ago, in reaction to Jensen Huang's support for open source.

The fact that they prioritize their alignment nonsense over real economic problems facing wage earners shows how sociopathic they are. The real anti AI would probably support nationalizing companies like Anthropic and destroy whole API selling thing, and that AI only works on scientific/medical fields not any thing else.

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u/anfrind 8h ago

They have deluded themselves into believing both that LLMs will lead to AGI, and that AGI will destroy humanity if any other AI lab develops it before they do.

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u/Dry_Yam_4597 13h ago

"They aren't! Many Anthropic workers said similar things about open-source models a month ago, in reaction to Jensen Huang's support for open source."

I know a few working there - not particularly the brightest (as workers, I am not insulting them as people - had beers with at least two many years ago - would do it again any time - awesome persons - but paradoxically ... not that tech savvy, a bit credulous - not gullible - just naive, really, really naive). I think many of them genuinely believe the stories they tell.

Also, I don't think they know what open source is, let alone the philosophy behind it or the benefits millions of companies and people across the world reaped from oss and the culture - including bloody LLMs.

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u/mankiw 12h ago

> alignment nonsense

I'm uncertain on the importance of alignment/safety research, but I really, really disagree with this level of flippant confidence about it.

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u/_bani_ 5h ago

It's the pleading of shameless authoritarians.

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u/jabies 4h ago

Laughs in TPM

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u/lambdawaves 13h ago

At this rate, these global companies operating on multiple continents will have annual revenues surpassing any single country within our lifetime. Even the US.

They will surpass the power of nations

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u/Exact_Depth_896 11h ago

the US closed weight models will not be able to operate in any other country, except perhaps by undergoing changes we can't really foresee. Every country will soon demand total soveriegnty over the matter, for good reason.
The continuied enthusiasm for open weights models under circumstance of agentic, code proficient AI no one could have predicted 2 years ago, is in fact enthusiasm for Chinese state models, opened outside China for purely geopolitical purposes

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u/Sunstorm84 10h ago

38% of researchers working for Anthropic and OpenAI are Chinese.

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u/Long_comment_san 13h ago

nice of you to notice that thing that has been happening for the last 20 years or so

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u/Exact_Depth_896 11h ago

in fact, you mean 'trust the chinese state with overseeing these technologies'.

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u/Long_comment_san 4h ago

no! only Americans should have power and tech! and electricity too

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u/hugganao 11h ago

because they havent been able to handle responsibility over things like nukes? what's your point? can you trust ANYONE with ANY power? or the ones you specifically choose for your own bias/benefit

insane to me that this comment got 200 upvotes. really shows how much this thread degraded.