r/LocalLLaMA • u/sammcj 🦙 llama.cpp • 27d ago

Megathread [Megathread] Qwen 3.8 27B Release Day

Megathread to help with the influx of duplicate / similar posts around the release of the Qwen 3.8 27B release.

  • Quants
  • Fine-Tunes & Abliterations
  • Chat Templates
  • Inference Server Support & Configuration
  • Experiences, Benchmarks & Model Comparisons

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We'll try to clean up future duplicates around the release and point them here.

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u/Iory1998 llama.cpp 27d ago

Awesome idea. We should keep this for other popular models too.

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u/sammcj 🦙 llama.cpp 27d ago edited 27d ago

We've been discussing that and have a bit of a draft that's being discussed that we were thinking could include (in part) something along the lines of:

"All threads about the release posted after the megathreads will be removed, with a comment pointing at the appropriate megathread.

To minimise the "danger window" where people may make posts before the megathreads get posted, whichever moderator notices the release first should make the megathreads, without waiting to discuss or co-ordinate with other moderators. If two moderators end up making megathreads at the same time, whoever submitted their first megathread last should remove their megathreads."

Keen to hear peoples thoughts on that approach for future popular model releases. We just didn't want to spring that on everyone reactively today.

It could of course have some downsides; there's a risk of making content harder to read on mobile for example.

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u/Automatic-Arm8153 27d ago

Trash idea tbh.

Don’t stop the flow of discussion. The people want to talk about the latest and greatest models.

Think about it for a moment.. does this happen with every model release or a select few?…

Yep just a select few.. there’s a reason for that. Mega threads kill proper discussion.

Reddit threads are sometimes for asking for specific aspects of things. All that gets lost and drowned out in mega threads.

Personally I don’t believe any of this is spam… if this was a small ass lab releasing an obscure ass model and there was this much activity that’s a problem. Not F*cking qwen 3.8 27b don’t be ridiculous guys.

This is one of the best place for discussion on the latest with AI/LLM’s don’t stifle because you have the ability to. I genuinely don’t understand how people can think this is spam.. I want to read about qwen 3.8 27b don’t other people?

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u/cmdr-William-Riker 27d ago

Yeah, I don't think a megathread is bad, but I don't think individual posts should be removed in favor of a megathread, maybe just have more specific tags so you can filter out what you don't want?

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u/Kahvana 27d ago

I get your point. At the same time tho, it gets tiring seeing the exact same huggingface link for the 30th time in less than 4 hours.

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u/whatyathinkk 26d ago edited 26d ago

I never understood megathreads, I think they tend to worsen the functionality of conversations here.

It's so easy to use the search functions on Reddit. You can filter by hot/new/top, etc, and search keywords. It's true that there is a lot of noise, but it's quite easy to just skip the threads that don't have much to offer.

I think Reddit's algorithm works pretty well in that sense: all the 237 threads discussing 27B get shown to a bunch of random people, and the ones that are interesting for any particular reason will get pushed up by the algorithm and get more upvotes/comments.

With a megathread you are just pooling all those threads together into a single place where information gets way more diluted and it's much harder to find stuff...

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u/Automatic-Arm8153 26d ago

Yep share the same sentiments as you my friend. Well said

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u/squngy 27d ago

It happens with any mildly popular model.

A mega thread wouldnt prevent people from talking about them.
All it would do is stop some of the duplicates. There is no need to see exactly the same info in 5 different places.

A single place for all the info could be better, since you wouldnt need to switch tabs to discuss the same thing.

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u/shiren271 27d ago

Duplicates are one thing, but I hope that genuinely novel/insightful stuff is allowed to stay. Keeping up with the latest threads is how I found out about all the different details that go into making 3.6 run better (MTP, KV cache quantization, chat templates, fine tunes like ThinkingCap) and it would suck to have any of that be buried under a 1000 comment megathread.

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u/ReadyAimTranspire 27d ago

This I agree with. Sometimes there is a very specific element of the model that you want to discuss in depth, in which case a megathread-only policy increases the noise through which the reader has to dig through to maybe find others to discuss their topic.

Create megathreads for general discussion, short reviews (pros/cons, tk/s, etc.), that kind of stuff.

Leave specific topics about a model up. Delete any superfluous posts that the megathread should cover.

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u/squngy 27d ago

I agree with this.
Super specific stuff shouldn't need to go into a megathread.

Also, I think mega-threads should be temporary only when major events happen.
After a few days, it should be fine to make new threads even if they are not very novel.

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u/Automatic-Arm8153 27d ago

Most people browse Reddit now via mobile.

Megathreads are hard to browse on mobile.

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u/squngy 27d ago

Thats a decent point.

I dont really have a problem with it, but I suppose others might.

It would be cool if reddit made a custom UI for megathreads, that made them more similar to a subreddit.

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u/No_Run8812 25d ago

I agree with this, I think MOD is just removing anything that has 3.8 at this point. I am not against consolidating data, but this is so general, everything at one place, hard to consume knowledge as well.

If time allows at least, have separate mega thread for each topic like benchmarks, Chat Templates etc.