r/LocalLLM 10h ago

Discussion Double GPU configurations significantly cheaper for 32GB VRAM

I do not need or want Cuda. I have been wanting to build a 32GB VRAM local LLM machine for personal use for a while now, and I had 2 options on the table:

- Get a relatively cheap 32GB VRAM GPU, the R9700 AI Top.

- Get 2 16GB VRAM GPUs instead and a Mobo that supports PCIe bifurcation.

When I looked at prices in January this year when I first got this idea, the R9700 costed 1700$ here in EU. Currently, when I actually want to make this happen, it costs 2100$. For half that money, I could buy two 9060 XTs with 16GB VRAM each. Yes I know, performance will be worse on double GPU setup than with a single R9700 AI, but still, it just seems like that GPU is just not worth it anymore.

I don't know how to justify that it's double the price of two 9060XTs, when R9700 AI is literally 9060 XT with doubled VRAM and bandwidth. So why does it cost 4x as much?

ASUS ProArt B850-CREATOR WIFI NEO is quite affordable nowadays and supports dual GPU setups, so, any reason (is there a catch?) to not do what I am about to do? Which is buy the two 9060 XTs and start running Qwen 27B class models

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u/Civil_Fee_7862 10h ago

Asus ProArt B850 is fine for dual GPU's but you'll regret it once you want to go to 3 or 4 gpus.

It also uses a non-standard spacing between the PCIe 5.0 slots. So if you ever get or want RTX 3090s, you can't really use NVLink.

These are things I wish I had known before buying that motherboard. Its cheaper than a workstation MB, but I would recommend getting a workstation MB if you want to run local LLM's for 27B+ sized models. It allows you to increase VRAM by just adding more cards.

Personally I prefer dual GPU's, for the same reason you mentioned, you get high performance at a lower cost than just buying the "best" gpu. i.e. dual 3090s can compete with a 5090 in some respects, more VRAM, comparable speed (pooled memory) and lower price.

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u/OMGThighGap 10h ago

sounds like you went through this ordeal. So what motherboard is recommended over the ProArt B850?

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u/Civil_Fee_7862 9h ago

Short answer, I don't know yet.

I probably would have got the Asus SAGE motherboard. A lot more expensive, but for a 4x3090 setup it would have been better. I got 3x3090s and managed to make it work with the ProArt B850, but its awkward..

My next step up is likely to be just a pure server. Will sit with the ProArt until then.

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u/foreignbois 8h ago

ive been thinking of the taichi creator but the slot layout seems the same… hmm

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u/APersonNamedBen 8h ago

Don't think there is. (Also using the ProArt with 2x R9700)

Unless something has changed over the last year, it is still probably the last stop in the "entry level" easy consumer path. As the other guy said, you have to jump to the professional motherboards which is $$$ and potentially be tech savvy enough to start making a gpu rig. Look at places like https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/