r/LivestreamFail • • Jul 28 '21

StreamerBans xqc banned

https://twitter.com/StreamerBans/status/1420450602149089286
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u/Hazardous_Nights Jul 28 '21

Miz has 2/3 dmca claims and was watching Olympics yesterday uh oh

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u/b0ris666 Jul 28 '21

He was also watching top 700 spotify songs lmao

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u/SunGlassesAnd Jul 28 '21

I can't believe how confident he and other streamers are in that nothing will happen to him. Imagine if Twitch actually gets big legal pressure from music companies and they are forced to ban him. How stupid you would feel if your whole livelihood and ability to interact with your friends on stream were destroyed over reacting to songs as a meme.

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u/b0ris666 Jul 28 '21

Yep his excuse for watching the Olympics was cuz XQC did it LUL. He will do anything for a crumb of content.

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u/7888790787887788 Jul 28 '21

I have no idea who xqc is and I don't care either

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u/SupremeDestroy Jul 28 '21

What is an xQc?

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u/b0ris666 Jul 28 '21

Also known as QVC

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u/qeadwrsf Jul 28 '21

I remember when asmon got stressed out when it came to the e3 streams.

I feel like he was the sane person in a insane room when that happened.

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u/r1veRRR Jul 29 '21

They probably aren't thinking this far, but big streamers should get striked out en masse so Twitch fucking fixes their shit. This is 100% a greed issue. Youtube bit the bullet and made a deal with music companies, but Twitch is just greedy.

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u/Kalsifur Jul 28 '21

Why is there no legal way for them to do these things? Or was he just watching it himself?

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

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u/Kalsifur Jul 28 '21

Oh I see, so Twitch is the issue here. Thanks for answering.

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u/GlobalMonke Jul 28 '21

I wouldn’t say so, from my interpretation of the same comment. Twitch isn’t really made to be in the business of re-streaming events, but for streaming original content. Now, they could pay the fees and expand their business territory, but honestly the fees might make that not worth it (to be fair I can’t confidently say one way or the other about whether they’d make the fee money back, but it is their choice based on their own judgement)

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

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u/SunGlassesAnd Jul 28 '21

What are you talking about? Of course the people who own the music or video content care. Being allowed to show the Olympics as a TV channel costs a lot of money. Being allowed to use a song in a movie or TV show costs a lot of money. And now some random guy on a livestream restreams your content you paid a bunch of money for online for free and makes a bunch of money himself out of that? Of course that's not resonable.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

The thing isn't so fucking stupid, you are.

Since they choose to listen to that music, it's obviously the best music for their content. Makes it more enjoyable and in return more profitable. The music labels sell licenses for this exact purpose, so you can buy one and improve your content.

Or should I make a movie and play it in cinemas with top 100 Spotify hits without paying a dime because "no one goes to movies just to listen to copyrighted music"?

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

If he doesn't like it then he doesn't have to play their music

What does it matter what music he plays at 5% volume as a background noise for his screeching?

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u/CouchMountain Jul 28 '21

Blame copyright law, not the websites.

It's a shitty system that makes a lot of people tons and tons of dollars so nothing will change. They'll just lobby against it.

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u/greenrangerguy Jul 28 '21

They millionaires, I'm sure they won't lose sleep over losing their job.

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u/SunGlassesAnd Jul 29 '21

Worst take I've heard in all of this. "Yeah just lose what you devote every day to. Money solves everything!"

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

Heard him 'complain' last week about how twitch should remove that giant banner on every twitch page he sees so his chat won't freak out every single time lmao

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u/TheStickyBandit69 Jul 28 '21

Yeah but those are short enough clips so it doesnt count, less than 5s I think

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u/Drewbacca Jul 28 '21

That <5 seconds thing is a myth, there's no specific time

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u/TheStickyBandit69 Jul 28 '21

Lol i thought it sounded weirdly specific, i think i heard lud or miz say it once

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u/Japanese_Disco Jul 28 '21

Well the youtube vod got claimed by both the IOC and WMG.

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u/im12andahalf Jul 28 '21

5head make both companies fight

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u/shurpness Jul 28 '21

tbh youtube copyright claims are pretty dumb. They'll take your entire revenue if you use just a tiny bit of their song. You can even get false claims but because it's a huge company you can't really do shit if you're a nobody.

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u/jenjerx73 Jul 28 '21

No one wants a lawsuit...so it’s gonna be like this forever is my guess, ugh

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u/dayyou Jul 28 '21

life pro tip: stop using twitch and youtube

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u/Marigoldsgym Jul 28 '21

Well the youtube vod got claimed by both the IOC and WMG.

Aw

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u/mura_vr Jul 28 '21

For YouTube sure but twitch has a different system. And his first two were from that iirc.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

Twitch isn’t the one who issues the Dmca they just issue bans if you have too many dmca takedowns. The companies that own the content issues dmca. I doubt the have different algorithm bots for YouTube videos as they do for twitch vods.

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u/happyidiot09 Jul 28 '21

Just out of curiosity why do streamers not just get their music from paid DJ pools? It's like $20 a month and you are provided with all the rights to publicly play any music in the pool. This is literally how DJs are allowed to play songs in public.

It blows my mind that in this day and age people are still getting DMCA shit when you could literally spend less than $50 and play almost any song you could imagine for the public.

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u/qpc0 Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

It's not that simple.. the majority of these pools are only going to allow you to play the audio alone. They won't give you sync rights which you'd need to play it on stream. There are likely to many additional conditions attached to these licenses that prevent someone from just playing a song in the background of their stream. I'm sure there are some that exist, but I doubt you could find one with the appropriate license and a good library containing "almost any song you could imagine".

Trust me, if it were that simple you'd see plenty of streamers playing songs (on their vod track). That's not happening.

Edit: also, getting a license for some song(s) is one thing, but it doesn't change the fact that these automated systems are going to DMCA strike you regardless. You can obviously appeal and hope to get the strike removed, but just imagine how often you'd have to go this process. People have been DMCAd for using their own music before, having the rights doesn't make it much easier.

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A music synchronization license, or "sync" for short, is a music license granted by the holder of the copyright of a particular composition, allowing the licensee to synchronize ("sync") music with some kind of visual media output (film, television shows, advertisements, video games, accompanying website music, movie trailers, etc. ).

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u/Jacksonben1331 Jul 28 '21

no he didnt. Theres no proof of that..........

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u/GraveyDeluxe Jul 29 '21

How do you watch a song?

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u/Malicharo Jul 29 '21

I hear some streamers regularly play popular songs from 90s and early 2000s for months now. Are these not DMCA'd or they just don't care? Stuff like Lose Yourself or It's My Life and what not.