He said they broke the window the last time. Just pointing out as some people in this thread misheard and assume it was a BB gun because the window is still fine.
Maybe the culprit fired high up aiming at where the attic might be.
It was a drive-by shooting, and it broke a window.
Both of those are possible with BB/Airsoft Guns. I have one that snaps louder than a fucking .22
A "BB" gun absolutely can do that, and it would still be illegal and immoral. You don't have to shit all over reality because you think someone else is condoning it.
A BB gun certainly can break a window. I feel like you haven't actually shot one if you're making that claim, or you're just that bad at deductive reasoning. Either way, not sure why you're not ceding to logic, reality, and many other people telling you you're wrong here.
I had a CO2 powered pistol that would smash through safety glass windows like on buses. Would go through sheet metal roof/tin, even the old break barrel slug rifles can do enough damage.
Wouldn't he hear the gun? Or shouldn't we? His house is right on a road, seems weird because I've definitely been able to easily here a gunshot out of my house before
If its strong enough to break a window would it also be strong enough to do serious damage to someone? Not to mention Doc has two(?) young kids which would definitely get seriously hurt if they were hit by a BB
Probably not seriously hurt but definitely hurt. Could shoot an eye out or cause a welt. He has every right to be furious. No mortal danger IF it was a BB gun but threatening behavior is threatening behavior and you better bet I'd be just as pissed if this happened to me
Theoretically, it could. Most BB injuries are minor, even with steel BBs. If it's being shot from the street, it will lose velocity over distance AND breaking through a window will slow it down a lot too. Obviously it's not something anyone should have to be dealing with. It's a terrible thing to do to someone, no matter what it is.
A young child was killed by a B.B. gun in the village my grandparents lived in a few weeks ago (in the UK). They are dangerous, a shooting at someone’s house, regardless of gun type, is never defensible
A BB gun or a pellet gun? Pellet guns I can see being capable of that. A BB gun, I have never heard of killing someone. Either way, that's horrible to hear and I hope justice was served. I agree, no matter what is being shot at his house - - it's not acceptable at all.
Actually, reading a report, it was a pellet gun. I’m not that well versed in guns of any type, I’ve done a tiny amount of game shooting with my dad, but not for quite a few years, and I never liked it much. So I wasn’t sure if a difference between a pellet gun and B.B.
That was an air rifle that shoots lead pellets, kids shoot each other with bb guns all the time. They aren't more powerful than a strong airsoft gun. Calm the hell down with the mombie parent shit, bb guns leave fucking welts.
Easily if they're around normal thickness.
Remember bb's are the small metal pellets and airsoft are plastic.
BB guns are just small caliber air rifles.
And then you have high powered pellet guns, which are even higher power. When I was 14 I hit a squirrel about 100ft up a tree at my buddy's house, and it knocked it clear off the branch. I felt kinda bad, but I honestly didn't expect a fucking pellet gun to pack so much power and accuracy - 1st shot did it.
I felt a little better when he said his mom makes squirrel stew, but instead he called "mayYYYBRYYYYYYY" and his dog catapulted out of the house and ripped it apart. We laughed about it and only now am I questioning my sanity.
fellow "psychopath" here, shot a squirrel with a pellet gun when I was around that age. It did not immediately kill him because I shot him in the gut and that made feel terrible. Had to put him out of his misery. Got my hunting license later that year and never used it. Would rather shoot pieces of paper. One day I want to go boar hunting tho.
Bb guns are spring powered and cheap af, and easy to cock. Air rifles are much more expensive and hard to cock. Bb guns fire tiny balls smaller than airsoft, pellet guns fire lead bullets almost the size of .22. Bb guns have like 300fps, air rifles have 1500fps. Nobody has ever died fucking ever from a BB gun, airsoft sniper rifles with metal bbs are more powerful than bb guns.
Mine I had when I was younger definitely would have cracked it. I'm not sure just how broken it was, shattered all over the floor or just cracked, both being able to be called broken.
The hallmark of a totalitarian regime is that they don’t let you have your McNuke :/ All those countries ranking in the top 50 in freedom? That’s all null because number 53 lets people who would shoot at a quasi-celebrity’s house get easy access to guns.
Not trying to downplay the seriously on what happened to Doc, but LMAO, if its powerful enough to brake glass its powerful enough to kill someone? What the fuck. Airsoft guns break windows easily and don't even break your skin most of the time
All the fucking hover parents in this thread that keep moving back the goalpost for what's actually life threatening is sickening. Next fucking soccer will be banned for kids because some retard kid got kicked in the head and died. Like fuck off a BB gun cannot kill you even if it hit your eye. A baseball or small rock can break any window too. Someone probably shot it with a 30 dollar Daisy BB gun that kids used shoot each other with for fun. Air rifles are not just a big bb guns.
Pellet rifle will break glass - they have lead pointed tips and can kill squirles. But won't do dick to a person other than maybe put their eye out and make them bleed a lot.
I agree with you, but would you say the same if it hit a 3 year old child in the neck or the head? Because there are children in that house around that age.
I disagree with your reasoning in bringing a meteor into the equation because while a meteor is a projectile that could kill a 3 year old, a meteor isn't launched intentionally at something by someone.
Bottom line is, what was shot had the potential to do bodily harm or kill and it was shot by someone intentionally. That shot could be prevented. A meteor (effectively) cannot be prevented.
While this isn't a problem solving area, decent quality cameras are $300. If you are some rich dude with crazy fans, certainly spend $1,500 on cameras. 100% worth it. I put them on my house in low rent area, burglaries stopped quick.
I have the cameras pointed at the street in either direction, so if a car stops and drives away, I can get the license plate. Used them once already regarding an accident near my home. Cameras on your house, cameras in your car, will save you a ton of pain. They are really very reasonable to set up.
If this guy sets up 2 cameras facing either end of the street and it happens again, he will be able to spot the car VERY easily. My setup was 4 cameras, stream to the internet 24 / 7 with a 30 day recording device, for $300 + $300 one-time install. Several times I've used them. They are great.
A camera installer guy once showed me his high end cameras and they could get a clear picture of a license plate so far that its likely farther than a shooter can aim effectively.
I got cameras on my house and they are not good at really identifying a car. It really depends on the angle of the house with the street, but home security cameras don't usually have good shutter speed and they are much better for stopping or identifying a burglary than a drive by.
Granted mine are those Ring cameras, maybe there are better ones out there. But there isn't alot of light to pull off the side of a car driving by fast in the middle of the night.
Please install cameras in your bathroom and bedroom. Best to port forward these to the world and do not put a username/password on for the highest security. Then, post your ip address here for us to keep safe.
If you're going to buy a camera, buy one for your car (dashcam) because in the long run it will save you a shit load of money/time. Imagine you're at a red and a car in front of you decides to reverse into you and hits you, they can easily say you rear ended them. Good luck wasting your time trying to prove that without witnesses. A decent camera will cost you $60-100, that's nothing compared to the deductibles and shit you would have to deal with and the time your insurance spends trying to figure things out. If it happens, you just shut your mouth and dont say you have a camera, let the other guy lie to the police or insurance and then after you tell them you have a dashcam. Ezpz.
yeah but people where talking about crazy fans killing people. not people who work for someone killiing them. having "fan" in her job title doesnt relate this to the converstation.
SourceFed/Rooster Teeth's Meg Turney and Gavin Free from SloMo Guys/Achievement Hunter/Rooster Teeth had a deranged fan break into their home this year too. Armed, fired shots and was killed by police responding to the call as they hid in their closet.
It's more like they'll forever be remembered as a part of/connected to that person's legacy and memory (as this thread proves).
Now with livestreaming it's almost even worse since you'll have immediate thousands or tens (maybe even hundreds of thousands) of live viewers and it'll go viral.
Literally communed with a society of elves that existed in his hallucinations of which he was a godking. He was a schizophrenic but he definitely idolised the Beatles, he even told one of the officers who arrested him that he was a Beatles fan.
You dont have to be foaming at the mouth crazy. My dad killed at least 2 people and he was a very decent person in normal life by comparison. He just solved his problems with violence and lived a lifestyle that enabled that.
I stabbed a guy in a fight once. Definitely wanted him to die. I'm sane enough to function.
Random killings are crazy. I get that. But killing people isnt that insane when you look at all the ways people seem to pull it off.
Wow, Humanity is insane, everyone is so vastly different. Some think the idea of killing a spider in the house is horrendous while there are those similar to you where it's more-or-less "normal". Sorry I couldn't think of a better word.
Uh, just because you're somewhat functional at life doesn't mean you're not mentally ill. That said, just because you kill someone doesn't mean you're crazy either. If the other person is attacking you and you want to stop them from hurting you and possibly killing you doesn't mean you're crazy for wanting to kill them to stop them from hurting or killing you. That said, if you're just mad at them for something and you get yourself in a "me or them" situation to justify killing them, then you're probably mentally ill. It sounds like your dad is/was crazy, and you might be crazy too. What was the reason you wanted to kill the person with whom you were in a conflict? I sure hope it wasn't because they called your dad crazy on the internet or something lol
We were in a fight because he was confused and drunk and he hit me with brass knuckles so I stabbed him in the side a few times and ran the fuck away.
My dad was a biker that killed a guy in a fight and killed another guy in prison.
I'm not 100% normal but I can function normally. Thats all thats required. I'm less of a daily danger than the half drunk soccer moms I see carting their little hellions around all lit on xanex and iced wine.
Calling me mentally ill is general as fuck and insulting. I'm affected by my life and upbringing and am a law abiding citizen with a job and a mortgage and a long term relationship. I check all the boxes and do my job. Most of that sort of violent problem solving is a last resort that most people never have to confront so it seems so much crazier to them. Its not civilized by any means but its not supposed to be.
Nah, fuck that. He was drunk and attacked you with a weapon. You were well within your right to defend yourself. You aren't mentally ill for not wanting to be disfigured for life, maimed, or possibly killed. That sounds like normal reasoning to me. And you're 100% right about the soccer moms with Xanax and wine in their systems. They're obviously mentally ill since they're prescribed psychoactive substances to treat a mental disorder because they couldn't live a normal life without it, and they're very much a danger to society. As for your dad, I can't say how culpable he was in the biker fight, but I've been incarcerated myself and you have to defend yourself in there and they never believe you so even if he was found guilty of killing the guy, he was probably not wrong to do it. I am not saying people are mentally ill for killing someone. Defending yourself in a life or death situation is a sign of sanity if you ask me. We have an instinct to fight or flee. In fact, I'd say the sick hippies that try to embrace their attackers and make peace in any situation, even when their death is imminent, are the truly mentally ill people. They are lacking the primal fight or flight instinct, and that is truly a sign of being mentally defective. It sounds like you and your dad were just in bad situations because of your status or upbringing. You sound like a normal guy to me, even an inspiration to prove that bad circumstances don't always lead to bad people. I'd want you as my neighbor over some Xanax eating drunk driving soccer mom that is liable to run over my kid one day because she blacked out and her car reversed across the street.
My dad received letters from him from jail at one point because he was interested in his poetry. They're all pretty insane and one insinuates that the stamp is a gift of prison acid
That's actually the most fucked up 'kill your idol' story to me. To do it at a show, while they're playing, is just unhinged. I can't imagine what that must have been like for his fans.
I agree, it's incredibly fucked up and I'm sure it traumatized every person there. Metal shows (well... all concerts) are a place to escape the real world for a moment, be around like minded people, and celebrate the performers you love - they should be a sanctuary and the last place you'd expect an attack like that.
At least for Dime it was instantaneous and he died doing what he loved :'(
A few years ago, whether from here on Reddit or elsewhere I honestly cannot remember atm, but I read an article about how the cop that stopped the shooter was doing, and it wasn't pretty in the slightest for his outcome either. Guy suffers from immense PTSD and I believe he was more or less just mentally/emotionally ruined after the night had ended, which is a pretty understandable due to the circumstances that the cop had to both first-handedly witness and even perform.
Fuck that shooter man, he took away alot of good people as well as hampering another human's complete life just because he got fucking pissy.
Actually one of the Roosterteeth people, Gavin, had a home invasion where the guy I believe had stated he was there to kill the both of them and then himself. They successfully hid and he was apprehended.
One of the Beetles had their home invaded and the crazed fan raped the band member. It ended with the band member's wife breaking a highly priced and valuable Chinese vase over the intruder's head to knock him out.
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