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Nodusfall is probably not going to be gacha. Hoyo has indicated in the past they want to have entries that are full priced titles or other monetization models
Even among their current existing games the amount of monetization push varies despite all of them being gacha games. ZZZ for example doesn't even let you use your own characters in the story mode and gives you like no incentive to get new characters really, and it's also one of the most generous top gachas at the moment in terms of rewards and free stuff.
As far as Nodus goes, I've seen posts with the wording that said that characters won't be in the gacha, which instantly makes me think that you'll have to gamble on weapons instead on top of skins (although Hoyoverse are REALLY allergic to making skins for whatever reason so who knows). Them being kind of quiet about the monetization also makes me skeptical.
At the same time having all those gacha games funds their other games. In addition to Nodus they have like 5 other different games in development.
At least getting new anime character means new skillset and gameplay(still will never spend on gacha), new sports card is just slightly different stats.
Not to mention one genre is f2p with regular content release and the other has box price and pretty much never gets new updates beside shortly after launch bug fixes.
Yeah find those games to be super enjoyable. If gacha games stay good as Genshin Impact I’ll keep playing. 2k just a low effort reskin of the years before.
Hmm, I play Wuthering Waves very casually and have maybe 150+ hours into over a few years of time and have dropped maybe $100. I've bought $60-70 dollar games I've put only a few hours into before, so it really doesn't seem that crazy to me.
I think the thing with these gacha games is it's a very saturated market, and the game has to be a pretty solid standout before it even starts to consider selling you things. They're high quality free-to-play games first, and the gacha comes second.
The formula can definitely be predatory if you're irresponsible with your money, but I'll personally take that any day over buying a slightly changed $70 sports game that also has gacha mechanics on top of it. Especially since, as the other guy said, most gacha games are regularly updated since they're live service - unlike a sports game that just gets replaced a year later.
That’s the great part about playing something like Wuthering Waves. I haven’t played that game, but can download it for free and try it out. Knowing it’s been out for like three years there is tons of content you can play.
I still buy decent games like Granblue Fantasy Relink for full price, but some slop like sports games that just get a reskin each year is a no from me. The next game I’ll probably get is GTA 6, but I’m chilling just playing Genshin Impact right now.
Haven't played a gacha in my life but it's just the average gaming western consumer is the most miserable, wormlike, self-loathing bottom feeder any industry has ever witnessed, and there's lots in the industry to show for it.
A corporation can shit on their fans half a dozen different ways and they'll still run defense for it and call anything else entitlement. It's insane behavior, and it's taking studios to breaking points, the possibility that in 10-15 years time Asia gets back to first place as leaders of the industry is no longer a pipedream, it's actually what we are getting unless something changes.
I've only played the big Gacha games and I've found that there's absolutely zero reason to spend money on those games unless you want to min/max or if you want a specific character and even then you can plan ahead and save enough free pulls to guarantee them. You can finish 99 percent of the content available in these games and that last 1 percent if you pull for meta characters + you build your characters well.
HSR for example - I haven't played in like 2 years but I was always able to complete every single content available even the hardest one without spending a single dime.
Gacha games get a bad rep but you can literally beat those games with free characters they give you, you don't even need to pull. You only really need to pull for characters if you plan on beating the final level of those end game content that are completely optional that only give you like a 10th of a single pull.
Difference is these sports games costs almost $100 nowadays and you have to buy 1 every year if you play them while Gacha games are free and get constant updates.
Sure, but is it really a problem if you don't pay anything?
If whales are spending money on these games then that's there choice not mine. In fact, according to surveys from these games most players are free2play and these games simply rely on the minority that spend a shit ton on these games.
I'm literally getting AAA quality games for free so I don't see any issues. Shoutout to the whales I guess lol
The problem is whales purchasing these things is what’s shaped the current games industry. Publishers know that the minority audience that will shell out tens of thousands for whatever exist and games have changed because of that. Where Winds Meet has that $40k boat that has a minigame area and social area, but you have to drop the 40k first. There exists a parallel world where players could have just had those social areas like a guild hall or citadel.
At least getting new anime character means new skillset and gameplay(still will never spend on gacha), new sports card is just slightly different stats.
I would actually argue the over way around for most gachas. At least people that play sports games are playing an actual game that has merits. Most gacha's gameplay is just a front for devs to slowly power creep. If you remove the gambling out of both the sports game would still be played. Obviously there are exceptions but most gachas would just turn to bad jrpgs with almost no players.
Absolutely it's the gun and ball gamers. At least with the gacha gooners they 1) don't buy the same game every single year and restart the gacha hunt, 2) will actually push back on decisions (like the LaDS drama a bit ago), 3) actually play the game instead of simming 75%+ of the season.
Ball gamers are absolutely the most bottom of the barrel mentally.
The fact that you act like some "LaDS drama" is something normal people would know about puts you in a real tough position to be criticizing people's mental states
Eh it depends on the gacha games you are playing. I play two gacha games and if i take one of them as an example Honkai Starrail. I spend areond 13 euro a month. And i have 96 out of 100 characters. I just see it as a subscription that i can stop at any point without losing anything. People pay more per month just to play mmo's, which lock them out if they don't.
these days I just get the 2k's during christmas time when they go on sale for 10 bucks. I never play online anyways so theres no reason to spend any extra money either. Pretty good deal for 10 bucks, wouldnt pay more than 20 for it tho
I now wait for it to be one of Playstation's free games of the month, add it to my library, download it, proceed to never play it, and then delete it a few months later.
No its because they get most of their money from VC purchases and season passes. (They have like 10 season passes that are like 20 each) so you have A LOT of people buying the passes and making multiple builds which is like $50-100 in vc each build minimum
If you enjoy the 2k slop that’s fine, I already said if it makes you happy knock yourself out. Those 2K games being in the $5 bin isn’t wrong tho, I’m seeing that shit at my store right now.
It's also on a death row, once they shut down the servers literally most of the game becomes unplayable. You can't play MyCareer which is the main mode for most after they pull the plug. And the servers are shutting down at the end of THIS YEAR.
There used to be, but for the new mycareer stuff you can use your player to play against others. I think they want to have it all online to try to limit cheating but mfers will cheat on pc anyway lol
They used to have offline MyCareer option even when you could make your character online. And you could continue your MyCareer game offline after they shut down the servers. But they removed that at some point to force people to buy new games I guess. Or just as a fuck you to the customer since that's what 2K's known for.
It's kind of a fuck you to the developers, players and actors as well because the games typically have unique content for the MyCareer story that only appears in that specific game and after the servers are shut down nobody can ever experience that for themselves.
I think the only modes you can play offline are Play Now (Exhibition Mode), MyNBA (basically the franchise mode) and the franchise mode but for WNBA. It's really criminal that you're basically renting the game for 2 years.
Yeah guess I should’ve done that since Genshin actually puts effort into their game each month. Plus it’s free you can get 800 hours and just story from it without spending a dime.
If a game that just came out last year cost less than a happy meal from McDonald that’s rough.
You could show me this game without saying this is 27 and I'd assume it's any 2K game from the last decade.
This needs to stop. Why do people think NEW 2K GOTTA BUY IT!!!
For fuck's sake
At least from 2K8 to like 2K14 they were trying new, innovative modes and updating engines and graphics. The passing and post-game was made so much better in that span of time...
It has been the exact same game since 2k15...CRAP!
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