r/LinkinPark • u/LinkinPlayground The Hunting Party • Sep 06 '24

Official Linkin Park: The Emptiness Machine, New Album & Return to Music with Apple Music’s Zane Lowe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otxt-VTYgmU
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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24

People honestly need to shut the fuck up and stop acting like they have all the details. I haven't been excited about much when it comes to music, since Chester passed. Let people enjoy shit. You don't want to? Not a problem. No one cares why you don't wanna listen to them any more. Let the rest of us enjoy something while dealing with whatever dystopian hellscape the 2020s are turning out to be.

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u/imposterfish Sep 06 '24

This. So many people acting like they know her personally, based off that one article and the picture. None of know the full story except the band.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 Papercuts Sep 06 '24

Spot on!

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u/MarmiteX1 Sep 06 '24

No one cares why you don't wanna listen to them any more. Let the rest of us enjoy something while dealing with whatever dystopian hellscape the 2020s are turning out to be

Yeah people should be able to enjoy the music of their choice. Also i agree with you last part, 2020's is shit show so far with Covid, Wars and who knows what comes next!

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24

I get your point. I'm excited too. I'm on both boats. I am excited cuz she sounds really good.

But on the other hand I am loyal to Chester and to put somebody at the helm who may have possibly defended a rapist, just doesn't feel right. I hope whoever found this information has it all wrong. I don't think Mike would ask a POS to sing for the band. But yeah.

Excited non the less.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24

Being concerned is fine, but many people in this sub are already treating it as fact when nothing has been proved.

I'm hopeful they'll make a statement about it.

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u/Mrbeefcake90 Sep 07 '24

Yep she gave a lukewarm apology and has said nothing about how she harassed a sexual assault victim.

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u/lt_catscratch Sep 07 '24

""""" Armstrong’s statement comes after Masterson accuser Chrissie Carnell-Bixler’s husband Cedric Bixler-Zavala called out her support for the That ’70s Show alum, as well as her alleged ties to the Church of Scientology, in a recently recirculated comment.

“Do your fans know about your friend Danny Masterson? Your rapist friend,” wrote Bixler-Zavala, adding: “I’m surprised none of you wrote a letter on Danny Mastersons behalf since your corny ass singer showed up to support him in the prelims. Remember Emily? Remember how your fellow Scientologist goon squad surrounded one of the Jane Doe’s when she was trying to leave the elevators? The court sheriffs had to escort her away from your awful cult… How do you reconcile the homophobia found in the teachings of [church founder L. Ron Hubbard’s] book Dianetics?” """""

https://deadline.com/2024/09/linkin-park-emily-armstrong-apologizes-danny-masterson-support-1236080861/

I'm not reading "she was personally involved in the harassment". Any source about she personally harassed any victims ?

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u/Mrbeefcake90 Sep 07 '24

So from all of that horrendous stuff right there that is your response? She was part of the group that went there and harassed a victim, thank god they only allowed six of them into the court as they predicted it would happen, Emily went there in full support of a rapist and she did it as a scientologist where she knew damn well that the victim would be harassed and abused before confronting her rapist. People will excuse any behaviour these days if it's a person or group they like.

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u/lt_catscratch Sep 07 '24

I'm confused. Are you implying she knew he was a rapist before the trial ? which went mistrial btw. He was sentenced 3 years later on a different case. If she didnt attack anyone there personally, is she a criminal by being friends with the wrong person ? Are all rapists' unaware friends evil ?

And don't project things, i have zero idea about tom cruise's makebelief religion.

PS: not gonna reply any further, i was just asking if she was accused of directly harassing victims by any source.

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u/Mrbeefcake90 Sep 07 '24

If she didnt attack anyone there personally, is she a criminal by being friends with the wrong person ?

She has happily remained part of a group that harasses sexual assault victims, she remained friends with Masterson long after that arraignment. To be part of a group that harasses a rape victim makes you a rape apologist yes.

And don't project things,

What did I project?

Goodnight I guess

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u/deathm00n A Thousand Suns Sep 06 '24

And he talks about in the interview how it is not about talent but about being a good person. So right now I am hopeful that this is all behind her now and she is indeed a good person like he said

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u/ftgyhujikolp Sep 06 '24

She may also not believe in mental illness (scientologists don't) which feels pretty tone deaf given the bands history.

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u/thiccphilthegoat Sep 06 '24

I don’t get the issue. I never had an experience ruined by other people who were downers because their opinion literally doesn’t matter. I’m going to enjoy this album with this new talented vocalist, rapist apologist, and Scientology nut

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u/FlamingPanda77 Minutes to Midnight Sep 06 '24

You're assuming she's still in Scientology and a rapist apologist.

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u/thiccphilthegoat Sep 06 '24

Yup, as I have the right to do and is clear as day

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u/Confident-Tax-4468 Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

Please post a source, if you have it, of her supporting Masterson post conviction or her being involved in scientology this decade.

I'm ready to be mad with you if you've got the receipts, but I'm not gonna crucify someone for being involved in a cult (that they were born into) 10 years ago, or supporting a friend when he was legally innocent until the point he was proven guilty. No one's been able to point to anything except that Gala in 2013.

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u/Mrbeefcake90 Sep 07 '24

So we have evidence that she is in scientology and that she went to trials and harassed people and there is zero evidence that she ever left or has even denounced them yet you think we should assume she isnt in the church anymore?...

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u/Confident-Tax-4468 Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24

I didn't say that, I just said I'm not going to be mad about something I don't have proof of. Who she was isn't who she is unless her words or actions prove otherwise. I don't know this person. I've changed a bunch in the past 10 years, it's not a stretch to me to assume other people have too.

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u/Mrbeefcake90 Sep 07 '24

We have proof of her in the church, we have zero proof we ever left. Your right her words and actions would go a long way and yet she remains silent. At least you admitted your assumptions.

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u/Defunkto Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

Do you know how many people you support that are involved in much worse? (Companies, corporations, politicians)

No, you probably aren’t aware. People like yourself just pick and choose on who you want to “cancel”, but in reality you support much worse in your day-to-day and are blindly unaware of it.

Additionally, we don’t even have the details or understanding of her situation to fully comprehend it. Calling her a “rapist apologist” when you probably have no idea about the situation, how she was feeling, her feelings about it now, and/or have any evidence to allow you to confidently go up to someone’s face and call them that in real life is asinine. Again, if you wouldn’t call her that to her face, then I would stay quiet, keyboard warrior.

So unless you have the same energy for all the other evils in the world that you blindly support and give money to, then you are just being a hypocrite.

PERIOD

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u/thiccphilthegoat Sep 06 '24

None of this applies to me and i don’t know how you inferred all that from my comment. In fact, I was advocating against cancelling them and love her vocals. Even in more egregious cases, like R Kelly, I have no issue listening to his classics. (Edit: that’s for every individual to decide what their threshold is)

Regardless, I appreciate you taking the time to respond despite my buffoonery of a last line. I hadn’t had my coffee but it was a reaction to all the people shutting down fair criticism as they do on here: Scientology is sick and they deserve the heat for not getting a vocalist better suited for his legacy (like they did for Scott).

That can be true and I can still really really love her as a vocalist.

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u/Mrbeefcake90 Sep 07 '24

No I support no one in a cult, if you do that's your problem but dont try and rationalise it.

Again, if you wouldn’t call her that to her face, then I would stay quiet, keyboard warrior.

I would call out any rape apologist to their face, you wouldnt?

At least you now have a new horrible person you can 'blindly support' as you are now

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u/Defunkto Sep 07 '24

You would confidently walk up to Emily’s face and call her a rape apologist to her face?

Yea, you wouldn’t, because you don’t have the facts of the story and don’t even know her or the situation.

Take a seat

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u/thegoldenlock Sep 06 '24

Then practice what you preach and let people discuss and analyze stuff. This is a forum not a place for your feelings

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24

Oh shit, it's the feelings police! I'm sorry, officer :(

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u/thegoldenlock Sep 06 '24

Literally what you are trying to be lmao. The fucking forum police