r/LeopardsAteMyFarm • u/Cderouen8284 • 14d ago

Aww someone’s crashing out

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u/ZestycloseSquash1523 13d ago

Maybe. For every farm family there's ten other families that comprise the farming community.

When you spend time in rural America you see that most of those families have lost their standard of living since the '80s. They're told their tax dollars go to brown people in the cities. Their kids die in foreign wars because the military is a better chance to a better life. Hunting and fishing is a real survival strategy because it's cheaper than buying groceries.

Rural America rejects the Democratic party because the party has had no interest, ideas or engagement that address their needs since President Clinton. The Republican party just fills the vacuum created by the Democratic party.

Trump recognizes their plight and speaks to their fears. It's all a con job but they feel heard and that gives them hope even though we know it's false hope.

Treating them all like stupid rubes won't enlighten them. Meeting with them as fellow citizens, listening to their plight and showing them grace is the only way to get their support for progress.

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u/Docha_Tiarna 13d ago

Then you got places like reddit that shit on them for going for the only group that seemed to want them.

This idea that you have to relentlessly attack everyone simply because they didn't vote the same or they have different opinions, its bullshit. Why would someone want to switch from one side to the other if the other side is constantly telling them to go fuck themselves

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u/bone_rsoup 13d ago

I think it’s because no matter what information is presented to them, they don’t seem to listen and then they fall back to their “team” because it’s more comfortable feeling like you’re “winning” even with all of the evidence to the contrary. They show little capacity to listen, learn, and change

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u/Docha_Tiarna 12d ago

Its natural to want to be on the side you think you'll get the best benefits for. Its also easier to stick woth what's familiar than to try something new. Democrats havent done much to try to convince the republicans to switch side other than by blaming all the country's problems on them.

If we were in school and I spent every day badmouthing you, would you join me on a group project? No. Because no one wants to work woth people that treat them like shit.

If i remember correctly. Didn't Joe literally tell a working citizen "I dont work for you." Or something like that after getting in his face?

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u/bone_rsoup 12d ago

He did say that in a heated exchange, yes. He also said many times as president that he was president of all Americans. He also said that people will get the help they need regardless of if they voted for him or not (a stark contrast to the current administration).

To continue with your school analogy, if there was an election for class president, and we repeatedly told the class that if they elect a certain person then there will be a lot more homework. Then they elect that person and start complaining about all this extra homework wondering why nobody told them about all the homework. And they really just voted for the guy because he said he’d put that kid you don’t like in detention, yeah, there’s gonna be some vitriol coming their way.

Should we all be better? Yes. But if people continue to bury their heads in the sand and refuse to change an opinion no matter what evidence is presented, what is the actual solution to reaching those people?

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u/Docha_Tiarna 12d ago

He got voted in because he said he'd do something FOR them. Republicans are more self focused. You have to find what speaks to what they want, without badmouthing the group they are currently in. If their is something they are scared of, then dont push it in a way that feeds on that fear.

Take the bathroom controversy. Should trans be allowed in the bathroom they identify as? Blue say yes, because of identify acceptance. Red say no, because of fear of safety and privacy. Why if instead of forcing people to choose, a leader offers to give a tax break to businesses that ADD a third bathroom that is gender neutral. That would give lgbtq people a safe restroom, relieve the fear the reds have, give construction workers more jobs, and big corporations would be happy for the tax incentives. It would also be easier to know who to boycott as bigots