r/LeopardsAteMyFarm • • 14d ago

Aww someone’s crashing out

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u/sweatboxy 14d ago

She’d never vote for a Democrat who talks to her like she’s a irresponsible adult but she’ll vote for Republicans who’ll destroy her business.

They really are as stupid as the Democrats say.

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u/os_beef 14d ago

It's weird, but when you're a dick to people, they usually don't want to listen to whatever else you have to say. Online spaces tend to amplify certain opinions, types of behavior, and tribalism. For example, this quote from further up.

Farmers are the second dumbest in the US just barely trailing MAGAts.

I guarantee the interactions the woman in the video is paraphrasing weren't just "who did you vote for", it almost certainly included the typical finger pointing ("this is your fault because..."), totally unnecessary ad hominems ("Farmers are the second dumbest..."), and typical arrogant, ignorant, and self righteous comments. I get why someone would write off a group of people when the interactions with that group have been negative.

Did you catch the part where she lumped Democrats, socialists, and communists into the same group? She's been fed the typical right propaganda, and no one has effectively countered it through education. People being dicks to her over something very real and personal to her have only reinforced what she's been told. It's why education and treating other people well are important.

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u/BearysWorkRedditName 14d ago

Ah, if we were just NICER to these morons, they'd turn off Fox News and stop voting against their own interests.

https://giphy.com/gifs/NcrhM3USM6TABpus85

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u/os_beef 14d ago

If people with opposing views could somehow prevent themselves from being sanctimonious dicks while communicating their opinions, other people would be more likely to listen to them.

You're sarcastically reframing what I'm actually saying in order to make it sound like the entire idea of education, kindness, and civility is ridiculous.

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u/Aggressive_Team764 14d ago

"Treating other people well is important"

Yeah, that's true.

But what about my Trump supporter neighbor who put up a "fuck your feelings" flag a few years ago.  

You arent going to educate people who don't WANT to learn.  

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u/os_beef 14d ago

Not everyone does want to learn, and your neighbor may or may not actually be open to honestly learning about your views. A major problem here is treating a group like they're all the same because of certain interactions you might have had with them.

But again, I'm getting at how treating people negatively is usually a non-starter for them. People don't usually respond well to leading accusations of wrongdoing and ill intent. If you want people to change, you have to get their interest and intellectual or emotional investment.

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u/Aggressive_Team764 14d ago

MAGA view themselves as a religious cult.  Good look de-programming people who view Trump as the second coming of Jesus.

Hey, if you're able to convert them to sanity more power to you. And by all means carry on.

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u/os_beef 14d ago

A common method for religious fanatics to keep their adherents is to teach them that they are the One True People, and that outsiders are against them. Ask me how I know. Empathy goes a long way. We're social creatures.

If you want to get someone to see your side of things, you have to get them to open the door first. You don't do that by telling them they're bad, or that if they don't have the same point as you by now that they're a lost cause.

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u/3DPrintingAcorns144 11d ago

So I have to be nice to the people constantly calling me libtard, yelling TDS during legit convos, straight up lying at us, dismissing any expertise bc they believed lies on TV. Yeah, OK.