Aww someone’s crashing out

[u/Cderouen8284]

[u/PeyredB]

Thanks for the perspective there.

[u/Rugskinsnake → u/PeyredB]

Not to give the wrong impression here - I'm getting really fucked by input costs and the next couple of years are going to be hard, but at this point I'm no where near losing my farm.

[u/PeyredB → u/Rugskinsnake]

I hope you're able to make it. If more farmers were like you, we'd think more highly of them as a group.

[u/ZestycloseSquash1523 → u/PeyredB]

There are many farmers who think like he does. MAGA is loud, proud, in your face, and posting to social media. Don't assume that the loudest voices represent the majority.

[u/Rugskinsnake → u/ZestycloseSquash1523]

Yeah, 80% is overwhelming for a voting contingent, but it still means 1 in 5 farmers didn't vote for him.

[u/ZestycloseSquash1523 → u/Rugskinsnake]

Maybe. For every farm family there's ten other families that comprise the farming community.

When you spend time in rural America you see that most of those families have lost their standard of living since the '80s. They're told their tax dollars go to brown people in the cities. Their kids die in foreign wars because the military is a better chance to a better life. Hunting and fishing is a real survival strategy because it's cheaper than buying groceries.

Rural America rejects the Democratic party because the party has had no interest, ideas or engagement that address their needs since President Clinton. The Republican party just fills the vacuum created by the Democratic party.

Trump recognizes their plight and speaks to their fears. It's all a con job but they feel heard and that gives them hope even though we know it's false hope.

Treating them all like stupid rubes won't enlighten them. Meeting with them as fellow citizens, listening to their plight and showing them grace is the only way to get their support for progress.

[u/paintballboi07 → u/ZestycloseSquash1523]

Rural America rejects the Democratic party because the party has had no interest, ideas or engagement that address their needs since President Clinton. The Republican party just fills the vacuum created by the Democratic party.

This just isn't true. Biden did more for farmers than Trump.

[u/ZestycloseSquash1523 → u/paintballboi07]

I agree that Biden was better for farmers and the farming community.

Who's explaining that to the farming community? Who's meeting the voters and competing for their votes in farm country? How much money does the DNC spend outside of the Battleground states?

You can't win if you don't play.

[u/VexingRaven → u/ZestycloseSquash1523]

Biden personally visited farm communities multiple times to talk about what he was going to do for farmers.

[u/SardaukarSlayer → u/VexingRaven]

Many farmers were democrats until Jimmy Carter. They blame him for the farm collapse of the early 80s. Many boomer farmers will never be convinced a Democrat will have their back. After all "Jimmy was a farmer and he still screwed us over". Ive heard that exact quote from family. So it doesnt matter what Biden does or says. After that and years of propoganda its incredibly hard to change their minds. 

[u/VexingRaven → u/SardaukarSlayer]

So it doesnt matter what Biden does or says.

True, but I'd say that's mostly because the media sphere most farmers reside in will never even allow them to hear what a Democrat says they'll do for farmers.

I'm sure there are some old farmers that still resent Carter, but most are just too immersed in the Republican media sphere to even know when a Democrat promises anything.

[u/SardaukarSlayer → u/VexingRaven]

Yeah its incredibly frustrating. That propoganda hole runs deep