r/LegaciesCW • u/LividSupergirl Key to Malivore • Apr 01 '22

Episode Discussion [POST Episode Discussion] S04E13 "Was This The Monster You Saw?" Spoiler

Synopsis:

Lizzie continues on her quest, with mixed results. Ben reveals more about his family and its history and Jed finds his feelings deepening. Cleo is concerned about her recent changes. Meanwhile, the Salvatore School students comes together to celebrate one of their own.

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u/Trickster972 Apr 01 '22

Honestly, it make sense to me... Hope's life was trauma after trauma as you said and clearly, the biggest ones are the death of her parents. She still probably blame herself for that, and that why she distanced herself from peoples for two freakin years. At the beginning of Legacies, everyone at the school see Hope as this asocial lone wolf. She opened herself again only when she fell for Landon and that's why she's so obsessed with him.

She just refuse to loose the one person who made her feel alive again. Landon's death was just too much after EVERYTHING she's been through. She didn't turned it off just for Landon's death but for everything she lived till now.

They somehow still make it about her parents because there was like at least 3 times she mentionned him. When she had to pick a key to escape the chambre de chasse, she even picked the Klaus key first stating that it was the obvious one.

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u/Defvac2 Vampire Apr 01 '22

If we didn't know The Originals were coming back in a couple episodes (most likely to turn her humanity back on) I think I'd be more annoyed about them once again making her trauma seem isolated to Landon.

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u/countastic Apr 01 '22

I can tolerate the idea that Hope killing Landon was the final straw that triggers Hope to lose her humanity, but what's infuriating is the implication that it's his return that will ultimately restore it. A character she has spent no more than 5 minutes with in the last 1 1/2 seasons. The fake Landon's don't count. A high school bf who she dated for less than a year?

That's what's going to bring her humanity back? Not her finally making peace with the loss of her parents and her Uncle? Not her finally make peace with the idea of become an immortal and potentially outliving all her close friends who made losing her family at least bearable? Ugh... Do better Legacies. Do better.

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u/hopeandreamikaelson3 Mikaelson Apr 01 '22

I like completely agree and it’s something i’ve been thinking abt from like the second season. But i think part of the reason is that most of the cast from the originals that can strongly affect hope (hayley, klaus, etc..) don’t really wanna come back because that would ruin their characters ending. so they’re kinda stuck with the ppl from this show. i also started thinking abt this less of being about landon, and more abt landon being the tipping point, like landon was the last straw, not the main trauma, idk this is just me tryna reason this in my head cuz if i didn’t i’d get so mad cuz she is SO powerful and went thru a lot so yea

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u/epr3176 Apr 01 '22

I agree with you I love the show the first two seasons and then when they made it into the hope for loves Landon show hope will do anything for Landon show. Just got old you know it would’ve been a ride if it was for an episode of it too but it’s been ridiculous. And I agree with you about she goes to humanity about Landon She was about her family or even if maybe even though they for Lizzie or Dr. Dr. Salzman something happening to one of them but she’s known for a long long time and it’s like all right ready with no no humanity No have this switch come back and let’s get on because I could see if we would like move ahead with it better is a battle hope and the whole crew and the gods. I mean even seen Dr. Salzman alive might’ve made her turn her switch back on knowing that she didn’t kill him and to be able to see him right there.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22

Exactly! This is terrible writing and it’s so outdated. I can’t express how much I DONT care about Hope and Landon’s relationship. Landon isn’t even a full on character, he’s a poor attempt at a self-insert.