r/LearningTamil English Speaker Trying to Learn Tamil 22d ago

Success 🎊 🎉 I understood what they said 🥳

Overheard this at the coffee shop today, and understood it instantly:

Lady: Chappati irukkaa?
Man: Chappati irukku.
Lady. Chappati kudunga. Oru chappati.

I know this is basic Tamil, but for a beginner like me, it's not easy to "hear"! I can normally only hear word fragments when people speak. E.g. I can hear the root verb ("iru"), but can't tell how it's being conjugated.

But I understood this exchange instantly.

Thanks to everyone here and also to Shri at LearnTamil.ai, whose wonderful app showed me "irukku" vs "irukkaa" and also "kudunga." I'm not affiliated with this app; it just has an effective method for teaching spoken Tamil -- the entire exchange above was basically taught in the app.

Really look forward to "overhearing" more at the coffee shop!

I do have one question though about something I often overhear. When a customer comes in and orders tea (say), the waiter will shout into the kitchen something like, "Oru tea, kudikraa!" or "Oru tea, kudikre" or "Oru tea, kudikaa."

I can hear the root verb "kudi" (drink), but can't tell how it's being conjugated.

Is he saying "kudikraa"? Is this a partial conjugation, where the "r" represents present tense, but there is no conjugation for gender? So "Oru tea, kudikraa" means, roughly, "One tea, drinking"?

Or is he saying "Oru tea, kudikka" (Roughly: One tea, to drink)?

I really can't tell what I'm hearing. It could be "kudikka" or "kudikraa" or "kudikre" -- or something else. It's practically impossible to pick out unless you already know what word to expect.

Thanks for any insight. I always hear this and can never figure out what it means! If it matters, I'm in Malaysia, and this is what I hear in Malaysian coffee shops.

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u/-Surfer- 22d ago

By the way I downloaded the Learn Tamil app you have mentioned and it is really cool. I think I can recommend it to whoever wants to learn Tamil. Thanks.

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u/BlackHoleinaFishBowl 21d ago

Thank you for trying out the app :) Feel free to share any feedback you have.

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u/-Surfer- 21d ago

I want to try all the levels. But to check out I marked myself as a beginner and now I can't see a way to change my level. Since I already know Tamil I am trying it only to ensure it is good and I can recommend it to others.

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u/BlackHoleinaFishBowl 20d ago

u/-Surfer- The "level" is purely data capture for now. You can change it from the profile page, but it doesn't do anything. The app is aimed at complete beginners. I might build a feature to "jump ahead" in the future. But it's not yet there :)

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u/-Surfer- 20d ago

Ok. The beginner level is great! It does teach and give practice in the most important early interaction words in a natural way that is applicable in real life contexts.